Turn 5 Twister Strategies Compendium

[SonyaArin]

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Admittedly after your kill, I got more and more lazy about snipping out different attempts. What Xil described with the 'arc' being extremely successful can actually be seen on the initial clip posted in the thread, this clip here. The idea was that your would move one direction, then start a slow arc in a different direction, distance traveled never seemed to breach any sort of zone on this. Eronn and Xil were extremely successful with this method.

After your video, I was having a lot of issues with the circle method and went back to an old strategy which was just to generally move straight forward from the start and then strafe with A briefly from time to time. This was my ~80% success strat.

Earlier you made the mention that moving at 95% of the cast would be a 100% death period - are you saying 100% or when latency isn't in your favor? If of interest, I can provide clips of jumping a tiny jump left at the last moment of the cast to a favorable success as well.

EDIT: Fixed the video link, put it as an image first.

[Richard_BG]

*snipe*

As Rokuthy explained earlier it looks like you run in a large arc which cause no forced server updates, so based on luck and latency, you get a plume location that you were lucky enough to move far enough away from that would still allow you to live. I feel like maybe the whole false positive thing skewed your overall outlook on how they actually work.

[SonyaArin]

This update changed the safe zone to about 6-7 yalms, and changed it so that the last position update is static (near the very end of the cast).

Old mechanic aside, I'm not sure how much experimentation you put in on a kill this week (as I assumed you just used what worked for you before, to great success), but I disagree with your perception on the new mechanic. You can ask Teloc about our experience with it tonight - I was eager to step in and just get a kill and asked that we do it the perceived correct way, and in pure challenge of that two of our members tonight would only run in a straight line at the beginning of the cast and were fine 100% of the time (we pulled 3-4 times tonight, maybe ~15-20ish Twisters total?) 0 deaths to Twister at all. If there is a safe zone CURRENTLY as described, it's next to impossible to breach it post-nerf even when just trying to. Maybe if you sprint?

[Zdenka]

Old mechanic aside,you sprint?

I didn't try it since I didn't want to waste 10 minutes of other peoples time but sprinting "should" get you into the death area now, unless they totally eliminated the outer death wall. Either way, the mechanic is basically a joke compared to what it was before basically how to live Twister now can be described as one simple word: Move

[SonyaArin]

Either way, the mechanic is basically a joke compared to what it was before basically how to live Twister now can be described as one simple word: Move

This is my perception of it presently, yeah.

[carraway]

I'm not sure how much experimentation you put in on a kill this week...

The challenge now is to find out how to fail twisters consistently. The night before the nerf we experimented with changing our strat a lot to essentially try to trivialize the hard enrage, which did work out for us today with two groups. Our rate of "good" attempts pre-nerf (where the only deaths occurring to twisters were recoverable deaths) definitely went up over time as the aggregate dodge rate of the group went up. A few public posts I've read from Final Fantasy's members indicated that they felt like they were close to a win before the nerf as well, so I don't think we were the only ones keeping quiet, keeping our heads down, and trying to master the mechanic; we guessed privately that at least 3-5 FCs were as close or almost as close as we were, including your group. What ended up hurting us the most was the existence of the script-breaking Twintania exploit and the subsequent two weeks of downtime.

[SonyaArin]

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Yeah, never blaming anyone on anything for keeping their heads down. The original post was something of a feeler for 'does anyone feel like something is really off with this?', and the result was 'maybe, but lets continue science anyways' - there's always clues to pick out from people as they discuss.

[AdvancedWind]

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Hah, it's exactly what I said earlier then. Do I win a cookie?

[Junpei]

Hah, it's exactly what I said earlier then. Do I win a cookie?

Must admit, when you posted that my sphincter tightened up a little!

[Teloc]

Yep, I ran in a line more than the small "Safe" range claimed. The mechanic is to move, you have to pay attention while dpsing down the dreadknight.