Turn 5 Twister Strategies Compendium

[Soukyuu]

Looking at the two videos, the first one appears to place the twister where the mouse cursor is when twister begins casting, while the second one appears to be out of bounds to place the twister anywhere in the arena which kills the player. It is possible that the mouse cursor position plays a role in twister's placement as if placing an aoe ability on the ground?

Edit: on second look it looks like it may possibly necessary to click on the ground

This is higly unlikely considering they made the game to be played on gamepad OR mouse+kb. Having to do what you suggest would put the PS3 people at a huge disadvantage. Not to mention those twisters appear under players and the chance the mouse cursor was exactly under/over a player is pretty much 0. They would also have to translate screen coordinates into map coordinates and sync everything with other people. All in all, I think it's pretty unlikely.

[Veurr]

Wouldn't it be hilarious after not really wanting warriors for most of coil, sorry axemen/women I still love you, if their giant hp pools turn out to be the key to this.

[Panndemic]

So has anyone been in today since the update? How are things going?

[BlossomRose]

My current guess is quite simply that Twintania detonates twisters instantly if it's not slowed, and might have a cast time if slowed, making one of the Scourges necessary to reliably get past twisters, otherwise it's pretty much a total coinflip.

There isn't a point to the Scourges in this fight if they are meant to be killed within the first 30 seconds and serve absolutely no purpose besides... being killed. Adds in the middle of the fight serve a purpose, because they're there to make sure your offtank is still paying attention and your group and quickly refocus, but adds at the beginning are nothing but tank and spank, so there has to be a point to their slow mechanic.

[Azari-Vie]

My current guess is quite simply that Twintania detonates twisters instantly if it's not slowed, and might have a cast time if slowed, making one of the Scourges necessary to reliably get past twisters, otherwise it's pretty much a total coinflip.

Then why are people living half the time? Your theory does not align with observed evidence....

[Trihuuger]

Then why are people living half the time? Your theory does not align with observed evidence....

I have to agree with your logic, but at the same time we have to ask why isn't this mechanic consistent? This is just a "for funnies" theory, but what if the crappy server->client position issue is actually the reason why people live rather than why they die? As in, they should be dying, but because of the framework the server is placing the tornado in the wrong spot. This is purely bs speculation and I only really made the comment because of the irony of it.

In truth, until the mechanic is consistently beaten, all of these "sometimes" working strategies are all up for scrutiny.

As a raider of endgame stuff for over a decade now, I am highly suspicious of the Scourges playing an important role in this encounter. Adds that you can burn down in the first 30s of the fight in which the boss is really not "doing" anything terribly special just scream out to me. The fact that nobody has showed up to debunk the theory makes me even more sure that the "super e-peens" that think world firsts mean something aren't sharing.

[SonyaArin]

Unless I'm missing something, the Scourge don't have a slow mechanic. I mentioned it in here somewhere - Twintania is slowed by the rings around her body at the start of the fight, and as the fight progresses, she drops them on the ground (when players stand in them they get the same slow debuff). This has nothing to do with whether or not the adds are alive.

Some people were suspicious initially because they thought that it would be strange for the OT to have nothing to do the rest of the fight, but there's actually MORE (different) adds later in the fight, and also I have a sneaking suspicion that the strategy for tanking her is 'supposed' to be having tanks rotate on Twintania (even though plenty tank her with rotating cooldowns on one tank - I think this just sort of goes back to SE's 'surprise' that guilds were able to use Paladin CDs to such high effectiveness).

EDIT: On a side now, I WOULD be highly amused and have considered what was spoken above - that indeed there is some trick to surviving and that the positional update bit might be effecting it in the reverse manner - that people are surviving when they're NOT SUPPOSED TO, giving us the reverse impression. At which point - well - lolz.

[Req]

Thats clearly it.

[Taruranto]

The fact that twisters seem to hit the MT make me thing you are suppose to block/prevent them in some way. Pretty much every ability of that kind that hits the party and you can avoid (see Titan plumes, Caduceus acid split) never hit the MT for obvious reasons if the tank is alive.