FFXIV ARR "Easy Mode"

[Lunavi]

You will learn your class just by leveling. Your class quests which involve a bit of solo fights to progress, teach you how to stay alive with the abilities your class has. If you are playing a class as your first, the main scenario will give you the experience you need.

Nothing is stopping players from running dungeons to gain party experience if they want it. Some might say that FATE xp is better, but that is irrelevant if you look at the deeper issue which is... Why are players not wanting to group? Perhaps they are grouping and just are not grouping with you. That could be true pre-50 and post-50.

Yes, it is always there. But alot of people autopilots to the most xp/h. The fact remains, if a way that encourages you to do the straight opposite of what your class should do is the most efficient way to get to cap there will be more people around not knowing their classes. It is good however that the game forces you to do some dungeoneering in the main story and that we have the class quests teaching us our class. But FATEs are lowering the potentionall of the playerbase alot.

[l33tbmb]

I couldn't remember if CT was supposed to be the easymode raid and BC was the difficult one... I'm kind of hoping that CT will have been rebalanced to be the more challenging one now that BC has been all but completed by many. This is a tangent, but on the topic of new content more than anything I'm excited for variations and alternative gear so that I don't look like a cookie-cutter clone of everybody else. That, more than everything, bothers me the most.

[BlossomRose]

I couldn't remember if CT was supposed to be the easymode raid and BC was the difficult one... I'm kind of hoping that CT will have been rebalanced to be the more challenging one now that BC has been all but completed by many. This is a tangent, but on the topic of new content more than anything I'm excited for variations and alternative gear so that I don't look like a cookie-cutter clone of everybody else. That, more than everything, bothers me the most.

CT is the easiest one, and was pulled down because it was too hard and needed a lot of balancing, hilariously. So it will probably be pretty easy.

However, if people think the average raider or player is already wearing more than one or two pieces of BC gear, they need a reality check. BC gear is so unreliable, I've been doing it for 4 weeks on full turn 1-4 farm mode and I only have two pieces due to bad luck. Since BC is only 6 pieces of loot per week, you can't gear up an 8 man all that fast.

[Caraway]

Leveling all your classes to 50 pretty much means nothing, because leveling is nothing but a grind and the only thing it can measure is how much time you have to waste in your life.

Either way, people like you is why Legacy servers are looked upon so poorly by non-Legacy. We don't want to deal with super hardcore elitists from 1.0 who did everything and act like they know it all and it makes them better.

Not all Legacy servers have that sort of community, and I am extremely thankful I'm not on someone like the OP's server. Don't see much of that sort of thing where I am.


Back on topic though... I'm having fun. I like the pace of the content, the level of difficulty (because let's be honest... I would not want to deal with some of the FATE grinder folks in Duty Finder if things were legit hard mode).

I personally think SE's found a good sweet spot for difficulty for those who don't have a majority amount of time to rush rush rush through content.

The mechanics have enough crunch to make sure people are awake when doing things at iLVL for them, but not so much that you end up wanting to strangle the people you've been Duty Finder group'd with (not all of the time anyway!).

Again; I'm happy. Sorry to hear you're not. Maybe this isn't the game for you.

[PiedPiper]

Just because groups who have put in the hours of progression to master a fight can then farm a fight, doesn't mean its easy.

I'm not bragging, I know many groups progressed faster than we did, but:

60ish hours of progression on titan (all in ak gear with minimal dl near 2.0 launch) That win was amazing. We were so excited, so pumped, so satisfied. And now the fight is on farm for us. Doesn't mean its not fun, doesn't mean it can't still proc up a suprise challenge. Sure, I've got 8 relics now, but I worked really hard for the first one, and that was satisfying. Now I get to reap the reward of having the skill set to get all the others.

Coil turn 1: Whole new kind of fight, so different than previous encounters. Something like 5 hours of progression, and then we felt so legit. Look at us, we can do Binding coil too.

Turn 2: Man, errrybody done one, ain't no thang, but turn 2 is still beyond most pugs, so again, pretty satisfying. Nothing all that novel but still a fun fight for most party members, PHENOMENAL for the tanks. We FINALLY got a real co-tank fight, that actually required tanks to speak to each other and work together. It was and is great fun.

Turn 3: Mad sprint to the end, dodging everything and mocking those who die. Great fun

Turn 4: This fight is amazing, even better than titan. Stupendously more challenging than any previous fight. 13 hours of progression to be the first group in our FC to get the win. I love this fight, it actually made tanking enjoyable. Being the tank who picks up the knight and soldier that is dps'd first and with no hesitation by the dds actually requires near-perfect execution, its very sdatisfying even now that we have the fight down.


A lot of the game's content is really hard untill you beat it the first time. Then you get it, you farm it, and you move on. This has been ture of every single raid boss in every mmo ever. No matter how hard the fight is, once you start to win, it just becomes about repeating previous execution. Of course it seems easy when you look at the players who have experience and time invested. That's because we have lots of practice.

Hell, even lower level dungeons are this way. I thought brayflox was a great experience and a nice little challenge for its level when I was leveling scholar (admitedly, the lack of leeches might have been what made it feel slightly harder). Stone vigil was pretty sweet the first itme thoguh as well, many groups really struggle on darkhold before they get the fight.

Content difficulty is best measured by what it takes to get the first win, not the 8th win. Titan is very hard at first, as it should be. Trivial once you understand it, as is anything else in games and in life.

[LadyZola]

I'm only lvl 38 but I find the Sunken temple of Qarn quite challenging, so I disagree with OP

[Ageofwar]

I hope that people do know a few facts.

1) the game has only be out for a few months now

2) a lot of the content is still missing which is going to be added in future updates like the following:-

Wolf's Den
Frontlines
Moogle
Levitation
Shiva
Crystal tower
Hard mode dungeons
etc...

Not to mention further updates to coils

[BlossomRose]

I'm only lvl 38 but I find the Sunken temple of Qarn quite challenging, so I disagree with OP

I don't think OP can answer anymore. A lot of his angry posts in the thread got deleted, so he probably got suspended for a while because I reported him. <_<

[Ageofwar]

I don't think OP can answer anymore. A lot of his angry posts in the thread got deleted, so he probably got suspended for a while because I reported him. <_<

Geez some people need to chill out and SLOW DOWN with going though content.

[gadenp]

Also reported alot of his threads. Sadly one of my thread asking him to chill out and take a break was also deleted :P