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    Armoury System is Broken

    I have noticed that when you unlock a job nobody ever goes back to their class. The whole system should be redone with the removal of all classes and just keep the jobs. They should then bring back the sub job system which makes more sense then what they have now.
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    I agree, the armoury system in it's current form is the remnants of a broken system. They should have just got rid of Classes while they had the chance or kill the Class at 30 when you unlock your Job, which they could have easily done but have now gone and buggered that up by letting Arcanist unlock both Scholar and Summoner.

    They could have let the class end at 30 and then you level your Job after that which would have meant you could level Summoner and Scholar independently. As it is now if any other "Classes" get secondary Jobs attached to them most people will be an instant level 50 in that Job and breeze through the few sidequest you have to do to unlock the skills.

    I think it was pretty stupid of SE to let this happen and I'm sure it will cause them headaches down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    They could have let the class end at 30 and then you level your Job after that which would have meant you could level Summoner and Scholar independently. As it is now if any other "Classes" get secondary Jobs attached to them most people will be an instant level 50 in that Job and breeze through the few sidequest you have to do to unlock the skills.
    This is my only gripe with the current system. I'd hope they'll eventually change it so that jobs level independently from the class it's attached to.
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    It's situational, in some cases you need the flexibility of the armory classes instead of job to clear something.

    1.0's Riven Road Hard (Nael Van Darnus Hard) would be the best example of this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    It's situational, in some cases you need the flexibility of the armory classes instead of job to clear something.

    1.0's Riven Road Hard (Nael Van Darnus Hard) would be the best example of this situation.
    But is there any situation in ARR where an example could be given?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    But is there any situation in ARR where an example could be given?
    Well ARR hardly has the challenging content where flexibility has the advantage.(yet)

    Maybe PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    Well ARR hardly has the challenging content where flexibility has the advantage.(yet)

    Maybe PvP.
    So the answer is no? 1.0 was built from the ground up for the armoury system with a Job system tacked on top of a shaky foundation. ARR is not, so why implement it?

    All it will do long term is give SE headaches because instead of having to balance content for just the Jobs they will also have to consider possible Class combo's to. It does seem as though SE's way of dealing with that though is to just make Job superior that way they don't have to worry about people using Classes. Which if thats the case why do we still have them?

    This situation with SCH/SMN being levelled off the same Class really irks me though as I personally can't wait and hope DRK gets implemented at some point and I would hate for it to come off LNC or something and I only have to do a few quests to be a Level 50 DRK.
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    Last edited by AlexiaKidd; 10-15-2013 at 09:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    This situation with SCH/SMN being levelled off the same Class really irks me though as I personally can't wait and hope DRK gets implemented at some point and I would hate for it to come off LNC or something and I only have to do a few quests to be a Level 50 DRK.
    Right there with you. Early on I thought DK might come from Gladiator, now that I'm entering the endgame I really don't want it to happen that way. I want to have my Paladin and Dark Knight but I don't want to just get a lv50 DK as soon as it drops, seems like its to easy. Also if its a DPS its going to suck for me to switch back and forth with all those bonus VIT points I got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    Well ARR hardly has the challenging content where flexibility has the advantage.(yet)

    Maybe PvP.
    Pretty sure Coil turn 5 boss is harder than Nael hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    But is there any situation in ARR where an example could be given?

    THM is by far the better soloer to BLM in the field and has all the cnj defensive spells the blm does not. es blm can blast the crap out of things but the closer you get to the limit with which you can win a battle the more the defenses become important over the DPS difference since when you are on a razors edge fight you are not one-2-3 hit killing even with the max BLM can put out which means you need to survive long enough to actually kill the target.
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