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    Player
    Exdee-em's Avatar
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    Solana Celah
    World
    Alexander
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 62

    Tonberry King strat for WP

    I was wondering if somebody somewhere came up with a new strategy for Tonberry King recently. Up until today, I've never had a single problem with fighting him as a tank, but for the very first time, I've wiped 3 times in a row because the DPS couldn't decide on how to deal with adds. I had people saying to kill only 3 at a time until Everybody's Grudge, and I had another person saying to kite the adds around the room. The problem with the first strategy was that while waiting for EG, I get Throat Stabbed to death by the ones they didn't kill, and the problem with the second one is that the kiter gets zapped by some instant ability the adds have. The way I've always done it for over 40+ times was that the DPS simply kills any adds that appear, then use melee LB on the boss when the slashers appear at the end. If the boss somehow gets 4 or 5 stacks of rancor, I just pop a CD or Hallowed Ground to survive it.
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    Shydo123's Avatar
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    Soccora Sureshot
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Let the adds march toward the center and kill 2-3 so that he gains only that many stacks of the buff. After he uses his special ability and the stacks drop off kill 2-3 more. For the last phase bring everyone in close to boss and focus dps on the King before the big guys make it to the center. There are other strats depending on what tank you have but this is the basics.
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    Cluebilly's Avatar
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    Roksha Alkdnar
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    If the kiter is getting hit with the heavy debuff then the healer should be removing that debuff. It makes the flow of things much easier if they're the ones killing adds. Also they should attempt to hit any of the smaller tonberries that get close so that way they draw aggro off you. (What I see Bards do is use their AOE move to get the tonberries attention) that way they can keep kiting and killing without much issue
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    Nikita's Avatar
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    Her Majesty
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    In every party I've ever been in (even in poorly geared groups) I've always just had one DD stay on the boss and the other kill the small tonberries as they spawn (while still attacking the boss as they can). Everyone's grudge has never one shot the tank for me.
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    Rin_Azel's Avatar
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    Character
    Rin Azel
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
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    MRD
    DRG
    BLM
    WHM

    BLM deals with the adds, 3-4 stacks of grudge, rinse repeat. Once the full LB is ready DRG uses it and the boss is dead.
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Azel View Post
    Our Group
    MRD
    DRG
    BLM
    WHM

    BLM deals with the adds, 3-4 stacks of grudge, rinse repeat. Once the full LB is ready DRG uses it and the boss is dead.
    This works if the tank has the HP to sustain 4k hits from Everybody's Grudge and if the healer can keep the tank topped up for when it comes. Alternatively, the tank can just kite the boss and all adds, keeping away from the little adds as much as possible as they are what give you the nasty purple slows. Kill no adds and the tank doesn't even notice EG.

    Or, a combo. Start with kill all, but when the numbers start getting overwhelming go to kite (advantage is far fewer adds to worry about keeping at bay and lots more time to build up massive aggro for kiting stage).

    All end the same: when countdown starts with final large adds burn down/LB boss for the kill.
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    Player avecha's Avatar
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    Character
    Etoinelle Dolet
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Azel View Post
    Our Group
    MRD
    DRG
    BLM
    WHM

    BLM deals with the adds, 3-4 stacks of grudge, rinse repeat. Once the full LB is ready DRG uses it and the boss is dead.
    This is what we do. I BLM, take care of the adds. Other 3 on King. Once the big Tonberries spawn, i do a couple of fire rotations on the king then LB then he is dead. Doesn't take long.
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Azel View Post
    Our Group
    MRD
    DRG
    BLM
    WHM

    BLM deals with the adds, 3-4 stacks of grudge, rinse repeat. Once the full LB is ready DRG uses it and the boss is dead.
    Our group:
    BRD
    BLM
    DRG
    SCH

    SCH handles the adds, never had a problem. Don't need a tank for this fight (or dungeon). Same party for AK. Tanks can be asses if they want; we don't need them.
    On topic: Kill the adds slower and don't let them reach the boss. You can just pull them with one move and kite them of you have to. 3 at a time is usually fine. You will have to just go full throttle when the slashers spawn and either kill them all with an AoE (via weaker aoes like Bard's or stonger ones like LBs) when they gather to the boss or ignore them completely and win before they are a problem.
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    MaethusXion's Avatar
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    Character
    Makoto Edakumi
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    I've done it two ways, but depends on the DDs. Best seems to be BRD, who draws aggro from all adds until the Stalkers/Slashers spawn. Kill 3-4 between Grudges, whichever the tank decides. Had a 7k+hp WAR once, so he could've probably taken 5-7 if need be. I've done it as DRG, basically the same strat as BRD. Kill 3-4 of them then just kite til King uses Grudge, rinse and repeat til Stalkers/Slashers spawn in, then everyone wails on the King.

    I'd assume a SMN could bind-kite them as needed, BLM too but they'd be really squishy. MNK about the same maybe... not too sure.
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    Character
    Izanami Kastra
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I've always just had a very straight-forward fight.
    One or both DDs kill all adds as they spawn and get boss when available, tank stay on boss full time, and I keep everyone full HP.
    Never had any difficulties or even any near-death instances with this strategy.
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