Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Nuru]

How would that work with gear/stats though? Would archers be donning full mail sets and just taking hits? Seems like it kills the archetypes classic to FF that people were asking for. (I believe Yoshi even said something like "Jobs - That classic FF system - is returning" or sooomething)

I was stating how Cairdeas would like this system to be, and using that Class/Job Combo as an example of how absurd something like that may be, but provides the freedom to be able to play the game any way you wish. Of course, it may not be fit for partying, people may up and laugh at you for being the Paladin with a Bow. Though, if people want to play that way, they should be able to.

As for my stance, I really don't mind, just as long as everything is balanced. I'd enjoy the freedom, and I'd also enjoy finding out what Job/Class Combos work great for different situations. As for gear and stats, well, i think the stat allotment is up to you, but the gear would have to be either the gear that supports your archer or gear that supports your job/role. Its really your choice.

[Eekiki]

I, personally, think it'd be awesome to be an actual monk class, (based on the assumption that the jobs will be given traditional Final Fantasy titles) White Mage / Pugilist.

So yeah, make the jobs usable by any class, just make the actions and abilities of that job specific to the class, knowhudimeen?

[Nuru]

I, personally, think it'd be awesome to be an actual monk class, (based on the assumption that the jobs will be given traditional Final Fantasy titles) White Mage / Pugilist.

So yeah, make the jobs usable by any class, just make the actions and abilities of that job specific to the class, knowhudimeen?

I get what you are saying, but the way i explained earlier was that you'd be able to use all of your Class Abilities, and then have your Job/Role Skills that define your Job/Role. So the Job Skills and Class Abilities are all usable.

[Sorel]

Yes, the Archer Tank seems so ridiculous, but it is how free the Job/Class System would be if Cairdeas's suggestion is implemented.

Maybe so. But there has been as ridiculous if not more ridiculous in previous Final Fantasy games.

A dagger-wielding White Mage (Penelo, FFXII).
A black mage that wields stuffed dolls (Lulu, FFX).
A fork-wielding Blue Mage (Quina, FFIX).
A nunchaku-wielding White Mage (Selphie, FFVIII).
A gun-wielding Black Mage (Vincent, FFVII).
A sword-wielding White Mage (Terra, FFVI).

[Cairdeas]

Also. This is how I could see an Archer Tanking.


1. Archer Equips Paladin Job role. with the Job Role Active he has access to Job Specific Armor that enhances his defense and further defines him as being a Paladin.

2. Archer Uses hate control and movement restricting abilities to prevent the monster from moving away from him or targeting another party member.

3. In a Pinch the Archer can cast Cures from Paladin to heal himself or party members also increasing his enmity and maintaining his hate.

The downside and balance is that Because the HP and MP are based on the Weapon Class equipped Archer doesn't have the same HP or MP as a Gladiator/Paladin or a Conjurer/Paladin.

He makes up for it by keeping the monster locked in place with movement restricting bow abilities and then stepping out of range of the monsters melee attacks.

[Nuru]

Maybe so. But there has been as ridiculous if not more ridiculous in previous Final Fantasy games.

A dagger-wielding White Mage (Penelo, FFXII).
A black mage that wields stuffed dolls (Lulu, FFX).
A fork-wielding Blue Mage (Quina, FFIX).
A nunchaku-wielding White Mage (Selphie, FFVIII).
A gun-wielding Black Mage (Vincent, FFVII).
A sword-wielding White Mage (Terra, FFVI).

Precisely, but people here are wondering more about the stats, and how these abstract Job/Class Combinations would be able to play their part in parties.

Also. This is how I could see an Archer Tanking.


1. Archer Equips Paladin Job role. with the Job Role Active he has access to Job Specific Armor that enhances his defense and further defines him as being a Paladin.

2. Archer Uses hate control and movement restricting abilities to prevent the monster from moving away from him or targeting another party member.

3. In a Pinch the Archer can cast Cures from Paladin to heal himself or party members also increasing his enmity and maintaining his hate.

Perfect, the roles still work with whatever class you are. Just as how Class Rank was more important than your Physical Level, now your Job Role is more important than your Class.

You should be allowed to play whatever role with whatever weapon. Some combinations would work better than others, and some wont. That's just the way this system works.

[Xeno]

-NEW-
Stage by stage implementation of job-specific weapons and armor

Don't think we need to be worried

[Cairdeas]

Precisely, but people here are wondering more about the stats, and how these abstract Job/Class Combinations would be able to play their part in parties.

Job Specific Equipment used to help define the Job not the Weapon.

Paladin armor will increase Defense, HP, MP, and Healing.

Warrior specific armor will increase STR, Dex, Attack Power, and Accuracy.

etc.

[Cairdeas]

Maybe so. But there has been as ridiculous if not more ridiculous in previous Final Fantasy games.

A dagger-wielding White Mage (Penelo, FFXII).
A black mage that wields stuffed dolls (Lulu, FFX).
A fork-wielding Blue Mage (Quina, FFIX).
A nunchaku-wielding White Mage (Selphie, FFVIII).
A gun-wielding Black Mage (Vincent, FFVII).
A sword-wielding White Mage (Terra, FFVI).

A Dude with a Baseball bat with nails through the end. (Cloud, FFVII)
An Umbrella (Aerith FFVII)
A Mop (Cid FFVII)
A Stuffed Moogle (Cait Sith FFVII)
A Gun Arm (Barrett... FF... VII)

Man, none of the characters in FFVII make any sense...

[Sephr]

Job Specific Equipment used to help define the Job not the Weapon.

Paladin armor will increase Defense, HP, MP, and Healing.

Warrior specific armor will increase STR, Dex, Attack Power, and Accuracy.

etc.

But that doesn't really answer the question, because with the versatility you're implying, in order for that system to work jobs like Archer would suddenly switch to wearing a lovely giant set of white paladin armour?

It pretty much kills the 'classic Final Fantasy' feel theyre aiming for