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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Well that was my original train of thought that each job would come with it's own kind of secondary weapon. So if MRD unlocked DRK they could use a scythe as well as a G.Axe. Then however would they add the ability to level Scythe or would it be tied to MRD's G.Axe.

    To continue gaining ranks with say my DRK/MRD would I have to have a G.Axe equipped or would the Scythe take over from it.
    It unlikely you level jobs, you bolster them by gaining new skills through quests by the sounds of it.

    You would still be levelling as a MRD but the trait would allow you to equip a scythe, the job would serve as specialisation/restriction.
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    I think many of you are missing the point; I'm not interested in a Black Mage wielding a bow or some such nonsense.

    What I would like to see is the ability for jobs to use several weapons (not all of them...) while still keeping the same role in a party.

    For instance:

    Warrior: 2 handed axe, 2 handed sword, 1 handed axe, 1 handed sword
    Dark knight: scythe, 2 handed sword
    Ranger: gun, bow, crossbow
    White Mage: mace/hammer, wand, staff
    Thief: Knives, 1 handed swords
    Paladin: 1 handed swords, mace/hammer, 2 handed swords
    etc..etc...
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Well that was my original train of thought that each job would come with it's own kind of secondary weapon. So if MRD unlocked DRK they could use a scythe as well as a G.Axe. Then however would they add the ability to level Scythe or would it be tied to MRD's G.Axe.

    To continue gaining ranks with say my DRK/MRD would I have to have a G.Axe equipped or would the Scythe take over from it.

    I think we should keep Weapons specific to Classes. If Warscyths are implemented it should be its own Weapon Class that eventually unlocks Drk as a Job. but once its unlocked you can then use Drk on Great Axe, Great Sword, War Scyth, etc. I say War Scyth because Scyths are already in game as a harvesting tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    You still do not understand my point.

    How I hope it works.

    1. Equip Fist Weapon
    2. Become Pugilist
    3. Level Pugilist to Rank 30
    4. Quest for Monk becomes available
    5. Unlock Monk.
    6. Now no matter what class you are on as long as you are above rank 30 you can assign Monk as your job to modify your playstyle for that Weapon Class.

    What I Do NOT want

    1. Equip Fist Weapon
    2. Become Pugilist
    3. Level Pugilist to Rank 30
    4. Quest for Monk becomes available
    5. Unlock Monk.
    6. You can now only equip Monk if you are on Pugilist even if another weapon is valid for Monk (Pole/Staff/Club) based on FF Lore.
    Ok hell no i don't want that lol why in the hell would you want that? they just said it that you can put action on some type of class within your job system which mean

    You most be on Pug to play as monk you most be on CONj to play as White mage

    you most use Hand to hand to play as monk you most you STAFF to play as white mage

    sorry your idea make no sense the game is base on wep your wep is your job/class

    they said that there some action you not allow to put so pretty much say if you put yourself whitemage your not allow to put any GLD spell so if you playing as GLD and have whitemage title you pertty much pointless it just a diff in WEP that make no sense.

    sorry but no your idea not to be rude but it's dumb and make no sense with the system they have now.
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  5. #105
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    After my last post I am starting to wonder why we've latched on to this idea of jobs gaining new weapons. I mean I guess it makes sense when we hear the words "job" and specialization. We obviously think traditional roles with traditional weapons.

    Really though if they start unlocking unique weapons for jobs doesn't that limit the possibility of new base classes in the future? Perhaps not but it starts creating an environment of over-saturation regarding weapons. All they've said is that jobs will provide more specialized roles and will attain that through unique abilities and skillsets. In fact that's ALL they've said, that they will gain unique skills.

    Obviously I could be very, very wrong about all this. However, I think it's a bit presumptuous to think that the new jobs will coincide with new weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Ok hell no i don't want that lol why in the hell would you want that? they just said it that you can put action on some type of class within your job system which mean

    You most be on Pug to play as monk you most be on CONj to play as White mage

    you most use Hand to hand to play as monk you most you STAFF to play as white mage

    sorry your idea make no sense the game is base on wep your wep is your job/class

    they said that there some action you not allow to put so pretty much say if you put yourself whitemage your not allow to put any GLD spell so if you playing as GLD and have whitemage title you pertty much pointless it just a diff in WEP that make no sense.

    sorry but no your idea not to be rude but it's dumb and make no sense with the system they have now.
    Weapon Classes are NOT Jobs and JOBS are not Weapon Classes stop confusing the Two.

    Gladiator is only a Sword User. Paladin is a Tank. One is a weapon specialist, one is a playstyle. I shouldn't be forced to play a playstyle on a weapon I don't like. If my playstyle is "DD and Spiritual Healer" Alah Monk, I should be able to perform that playstyle on my prefered weapon (Bo-staff, club what ever.) not limited to fist weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    I think we should keep Weapons specific to Classes. If Warscyths are implemented it should be its own Weapon Class that eventually unlocks Drk as a Job. but once its unlocked you can then use Drk on Great Axe, Great Sword, War Scyth, etc. I say War Scyth because Scyths are already in game as a harvesting tool.
    But then this brings me full circle, if they implement War Scythe and Great Sword then they will need 2 more jobs on each. I say 2 jobs per class as with CON looking to go WHM/BLM that seems like what will happen.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Focant View Post
    After my last post I am starting to wonder why we've latched on to this idea of jobs gaining new weapons. I mean I guess it makes sense when we hear the words "job" and specialization. We obviously think traditional roles with traditional weapons.

    Really though if they start unlocking unique weapons for jobs doesn't that limit the possibility of new base classes in the future? Perhaps not but it starts creating an environment of over-saturation regarding weapons. All they've said is that jobs will provide more specialized roles and will attain that through unique abilities and skillsets. In fact that's ALL they've said, that they will gain unique skills.

    It's more than likely a bit presumptuous to think that the new jobs will coincide with new weapons.
    it make sense what else would use a great sword? or Scyth sure there a DOL using a Scyth but that not really really a Scyth for say it look like it but DRK Scyth would be diff. Class system would just be the base and job would be the building it should some what allow to use more wep and it's own type also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    But then this brings me full circle, if they implement War Scythe and Great Sword then they will need 2 more jobs on each. I say 2 jobs per class as with CON looking to go WHM/BLM that seems like what will happen.
    There is no rule that says how many jobs each weapon unlocks or when yet. So it isn't full circle. If one weapon unlocks multiple jobs Sword alone would unlock a possible 10 jobs
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    I'm actually ok with the proposed system. I didn't take the time to read all of the QQing in this thread, but I hope they follow their plan instead of listening to the players on this one.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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