Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Sephr]

Most of us understand what it means.

(How? Do you have more information than everyone else?)

Jobs are Playstyles/Roles not Classes.

Still trying to establish your opinion as fact, and rally the troops behind you? Part of this mighty 'agenda'? I didn't say roles weren't playstyles. What I said was, by analysing what's actually been said in the text (talking about the class that corresponds to the job role being used to unlock it, corresponding meaning, being linked to), it would appear that classes are tied to specific roles.

Don't get me wrong, your idea sounds lovely (although fails to take stats into account really, and also fails to account for the fact that we're getting job-specific gear, meaning that a Black mage is going to be getting a black mage robe. But yeah he could totally be a lancer.) but it just doesn't seem like what they were trying to put across in the text.

You also pretty much seem to be working on the assumption that you're not speculating, that your idea has enough gravity to be right, and that pretty means you can gloss over the points I raised and ignore them?

[Cairdeas]

Still trying to establish your opinion as fact, and rally the troops behind you? Part of this mighty 'agenda'? I didn't say roles weren't playstyles. What I said was, by analysing what's actually been said in the text (talking about the class that corresponds to the job role being used to unlock it, corresponding meaning, being linked to), it would appear that classes are tied to specific roles.

Don't get me wrong, your idea sounds lovely (although fails to take stats into account really, and also fails to account for the fact that we're getting job-specific gear, meaning that a Black mage is going to be getting a black mage robe. But yeah he could totally be a lancer.) but it just doesn't seem like what they were trying to put across in the text.

You also pretty much seem to be working on the assumption that you're not speculating, that your idea has enough gravity to be right, and that pretty means you can gloss over the points I raised and ignore them?

I'm not saying how the game is going to work I'm saying how I WANT it to work. There is a difference and i think thats what people keep confusing.

We know jobs are playstyle/roles its in the writeup from Matsui. They are not Classes, Advanced Classes, or some other extention.

Though to be honest the only reason to specify explicitly "Jobs are not advanced classes" points to that they shouldn't be considered locked to a weapon. If they were locked to a weapon you could just consider them an advanced class.

[Sorel]

Though to be honest the only reason to specify explicitly "Jobs are not advanced classes" points to that they shouldn't be considered locked to a weapon. If they were locked to a weapon you could just consider them an advanced class.

That doesn't necessarily follow. It could very well be the case. But the conclusion in that sentence doesn't have enough facts to support it outright.

Just saying.

[Cairdeas]

That doesn't necessarily follow. It could very well be the case. But the conclusion in that sentence doesn't have enough facts to support it outright.

Just saying.

Well Lets just break it down.

If Paladin can only ever equip swords as their weapon, why should you do anything but say its an Advanced Class of Gladiator. Why would they Explicitly tell us not to consider them Advanced Classes unless there was nothing tying them to the class that unlocks them except that that class unlocks them?

If this is the Case though and a Single Job is locked to a Single Class. Its nothing more then the RO Multi Tiered Class System with different nomenclature. And thats something I do not want.

[Sorel]

Well Lets just break it down.

If Paladin can only ever equip swords as their weapon, why should you do anything but say its an Advanced Class of Gladiator. Why would they Explicitly tell us not to consider them Advanced Classes unless there was nothing tying them to the class that unlocks them except that that class unlocks them?

If this is the Case though and a Single Job is locked to a Single Class. Its nothing more then the RO Multi Tiered Class System with different nomenclature. And thats something I do not want.

Maybe, as others have proposed, a single class have multiple Jobs that can be associated with it. In that case, Paladin isn't the next evolution of Gladiator, it's one of many choices (Paladin, Dark Knight, Warrior). Now in that light, those Jobs would still be advanced forms of Gladiator. And since Akihiko Matsui stated that Jobs should not be considered Advanced Classes ... what doe he want us to consider them as?

[Cairdeas]

Maybe, as others have proposed, a single class have multiple Jobs that can be associated with it. In that case, Paladin isn't the next evolution of Gladiator, it's one of many choices (Paladin, Dark Knight, Warrior). Now in that light, those Jobs would still be advanced forms of Gladiator. And since Akihiko Matsui stated that Jobs should not be considered Advanced Classes ... what doe he want us to consider them as?

I don't Mean that

Gladiator <-> Paladin
->RedMage

Etch. I know they will have more then one each.

But when Paladin only goes to Gladiator. It is an advanced class.