Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Cairdeas]

A PALADIN is a tank, but a LANCER is not. Yes, you tanked using a lance in FFXI, but in FFXI, PALADIN had set skills, traits and stats to tank with really any weapon (Shield being the best, followed by staff). In FFXIV, there is no PALADIN. If you use a lance, you are a LANCER and LANCER is not a tank by any means. You go on with "playstyles," but just because you have a playstyle that you like doesn't make it a good one. An Archer can use GLA skills, but archer is NOT A TANK. Are you really so ignorant that you can't see this?

You can't say what a Lancer is because all it is is a weapon. Its nothing more then "One who uses a Spear" Thats it. If they want to be tanks they should be allowed too once they unlock that playstyle.

[Dubont]

You can't say what a Lancer is because all it is is a weapon. Its nothing more then "One who uses a Spear" Thats it. If they want to be tanks they should be allowed too once they unlock that playstyle.

THERE IS NO PLAYSTYLE YOU TWIT!!! Did you even read the letter? There are classes (Lancer, Conjurer, etc) and Jobs (Undefined yet but they will be the trademark jobs such as black mage). I don't know where you get this playstyle bullcrap from, but it isn't happening. A lancer, in FFXIV, IS NOT A TANK. End of story. An Archer, in FFXIV, IS NOT A TANK. Deal or leave. It's not going to happen.

[Cairdeas]

THERE IS NO PLAYSTYLE YOU TWIT!!! Did you even read the letter? There are classes (Lancer, Conjurer, etc) and Jobs (Undefined yet but they will be the trademark jobs such as black mage). I don't know where you get this playstyle bullcrap from, but it isn't happening. A lancer, in FFXIV, IS NOT A TANK. End of story. An Archer, in FFXIV, IS NOT A TANK. Deal or leave. It's not going to happen.

Rather than being advanced versions of classes, we would like players to think of jobs as specialized playing styles optimized for partying.

Matsui says otherwise.

[Dubont]

Matsui says otherwise.

playing styles optimized for partying. This is talking about the Jobs, not the freaking weapon classes. If he says "Paladin is a tank playstyle" this does not mean that you take your fkn GLA skills, stick them on LNC and BAM you are a paladin. You might have the "play style" but you won't be a tank. You are looking at the letter from a completely incorrect direction. "playing styles" has nothing to do with your CLASSES, it deals with JOBS. Paladin is a tank play style, black mage is a nuke play style, white mage is a healing play style. LANCER, a CLASS, does not have a PLAY STYLE, but it can't tank and it can't effectively heal. All it is good for is DD. I don't know why you can't get that through your thick skull.

[Dreadnought]

i didnt see anyone mention that the new jobs might only be held to either DOM or DOW, or even able to equip said classes on a few but not all of DOW. they might not be all around universal, but they might not be held down to that one class too.

[Physic]

i didnt see anyone mention that the new jobs might only be held to either DOM or DOW, or even able to equip said classes on a few but not all of DOW. they might not be all around universal, but they might not be held down to that one class too.

this is correct, it most definately will not be any discipline, simply because the mere use of a job is going to limit what skills you can use supposedly.
If say Monk doesnt let you use magic spells, then how would it make sense to have a monk conjuerer.

The best you can hope for is having a couple different choices per job, but even that may be more than they are willing to give. Dont worry though, you can still just not use a job, and take whatever you can from anwhere and play as you like. You just wont have a specific bonus/minus.

[Zenaku]

this is correct, it most definately will not be any discipline, simply because the mere use of a job is going to limit what skills you can use supposedly.
If say Monk doesnt let you use magic spells, then how would it make sense to have a monk conjuerer.

The best you can hope for is having a couple different choices per job, but even that may be more than they are willing to give. Dont worry though, you can still just not use a job, and take whatever you can from anwhere and play as you like. You just wont have a specific bonus/minus.

I don't mind if some class can use some jobs if that make sense to the role like Ranger can be a samurai but it be a ranger samurai, Polearm can be samurai but it be a polearm type samurai.

when it come down to monk only hand to hand really make sense they really not staff that make sense for monk to use as a wep for hitting not if they make some lol.