Casting Succor before battle...

[Einhandr]

Am I missing something here? I see a lot of other SCH cast succor before the fight even starts. As I understand it, succor only mitigates an amount of damage equal to the amount of HP that was healed. So, by casting succor before battle when everyone is at max health, the shield prevents 0 damage. Am I correct in this? Anytime I see another SCH cast succor before battle I would always chuckle to myself thinking that the other player did not understand the spell mechanics, but maybe I'm wrong after all? Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

[Alu79]

Am I missing something here? I see a lot of other SCH cast succor before the fight even starts. As I understand it, succor only mitigates an amount of damage equal to the amount of HP that was healed. So, by casting succor before battle when everyone is at max health, the shield prevents 0 damage. Am I correct in this? Anytime I see another SCH cast succor before battle I would always chuckle to myself thinking that the other player did not understand the spell mechanics, but maybe I'm wrong after all? Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

Shield will match heal strength regardless of targets health. So, yes, preshielding is doing it right.

PS - Succor doesn't get double shields on crit, that is unique to Adlo.

[Zappo]

The shield usually doesn't last long enough to do anything, but there have been a few occasions when I've used succor before the fight. Mostly for ifrit if it's not the most organized group, to prevent a wipe when someone pulls aggro by attacking too hard, too soon. Most of the time it's pointless, though. The party shouldn't be taking damage that early in the fight. A preemptive shield on the tank can be handy if you don't have stoneskin, though.

[nocks]

I tend to use succor before battle "just because," even if it doesn't always do anything. I find my mana regens fast enough before combat that it essentially costs me nothing to have succor up before the fight, so I figure I might as well.

Sometimes, I also imagine it makes the tank run to start the fight a little faster, since he sees his buff fading. Could be my imagination, though.

[PiedPiper]

Just like with adlo, it doesn't matter how much hp the target has when cast, it matters how much the spell hit for (the green number). So you can raise people's max eph by casting succor on a full hp target.

A cast before battle is free owing to the out of combat regen rate. Sure, its not much, but its free. Why not use it? 30 seconds is pretty long, on Titan it'll last to the first stomp.

Imo, adlo is even more useful, as its that much more hp onthe tank before you have to cast. Esepcially in speed runs I'll often swiftcast a SS or adlo on the move (depending on if tanks hp is high enough to make my ss or adlo more potent assuming no crit) to give myself those few seconds to get in postion and let tank seal.

[ApolloGenX]

Like stoneskin or any other shield, I do it before a fight -just because. Why not? Mana will regen.

[Kusumura]

Shield will match heal strength regardless of targets health. So, yes, preshielding is doing it right.

PS - Succor doesn't get double shields on crit, that is unique to Adlo.

This. Not usually a fan of Succor, but I certainly Adloquiem my tank before they waltz into a pull.

[peaches]

PS - Succor doesn't get double shields on crit, that is unique to Adlo.

Which doesn't make any sense to me, because using Succor gives you the Adlo buff..

[BoBoz]

I always Succor before pull at "Demon Wall" boss.
Succor make me feel like I'm playing easy mode of Demon Wall boss.

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Which doesn't make any sense to me, because using Succor gives you the Adlo buff..

I think he didn't mean "Double Buff" but double amount of HP of the shield.

btw
Yes, it is the same buff but different amount of shield.

Aldo 300 healing potency = 300 potency shield
Succor 150 potency = 150 potency shield
(actually the HP of the shield will be the same as the amount healed (also count overhealing)

And both skills will replace the previous shield. (am I right? not 100% sure)

[Alu79]

I always Succor before pull at "Demon Wall" boss.
Succor make me feel like I'm playing easy mode of Demon Wall boss.

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I think he didn't mean "Double Buff" but double amount of HP of the shield.

btw
Yes, it is the same buff but different amount of shield.

Aldo 300 healing potency = 300 potency shield
Succor 150 potency = 150 potency shield
(actually the HP of the shield will be the same as the amount healed (also count overhealing)

And both skills will replace the previous shield. (am I right? not 100% sure)

Succor will bubble for the exact amount that it healed for, when it crits, the shield will still only match strength of the heal. 500heal/500shield - 1k crit heal/1k shield.
Adlo will bubble for the exact amount healed for -unless- you crit, then the shield will also crit meaning that the shield will be DOUBLE the strength of the crit heal. 500 heal/500 shield - 1k crit heal/2k crit shield.

Succor will never over write Adlo. Shields will never over write a stronger shield. Shields will never stack. Overhealing has no effect on shield power. Healing a full health target will still give them a shield for whatever the heal was even tho they were not healed.
Preshielding tank with Adlo and group with Succor is doing it right~