[dev1058] Battle Reform Blueprint General Discussion and Feedback

[Abriael]

Everything seems great to me. I'm elated by the fact that the current class system is going to stay (as I always thought, and I really don't know how some could think it would go).

The only thing i really don't like is the hate meter? I think it's unneeded and excessively hand-holding. Tanking should be a challenge, and a hate meter encourages too much to do "as little as possible" not to lose aggro, making the whole thing too mathematical.

[Irana]

I wish they would get rid of stats altogether and give the same set of stats to everyone, of course this would vary depending on the class you are using.

But the stats should be manipulated only by armor/weapons/jewels.

[Jovy]

He didnt say if we would have to level up the new jobs aquired or if its a combination of level and physical level.

[Teknoman]

He didnt say if we would have to level up the new jobs aquired or if its a combination of level and physical level.

You'll most likely have to level them up similar to every Final Fantasy game with a job system. Physical level is pretty much being thrown out.

[Davorok]

I love Prognostication and Speculation so here are my thoughts...

...perhaps the "new jobs" are associated with the Grand Companies and unlocked thru Grand Company Quests...

...perhaps your job choice will also determine the Company you choose, ie. Marksmen only work for Limsa Company...

...perhaps you need the new jobs to do the Company Missions (and will probably want them to beat the Dungeons)...

...perhaps it is all a big new time-sink to keep us busy on R1 jobs while they continue to work.

[Rizon]

Some observations and some questions.

Observation 1: Most of these changes appear to be incorporating concepts already in use in FFXI with tweeks. Not a bad thing in and of itself. If you have played for any length of time you have already capped your physical levels <I did 4 Months ago> and are waiting for your Rank to catch up.

Observation 2: Solo play is being relegated to leveling up to unlock jobs. With the current state of the game and its population this will mean that I will be spending less time in game as my current palying time is during the day and there appears to be no groups around for NA players that I have found. Ergo most of my play now is solo. Hopefully the New Company system will address this. Not enough details to be sure though.

Question: You are going to use Rank classes to unlock quests for corresponding jobs. Once unlocked are these jobs at a basic level or will we receive stats in proportions to the Ranks we have acheived. If it is at the formewr I see no need to take any DOW class to 50.

Observation 3: Crafting Ranks were not addressed and did not need to be for those who asked. The current classes can stand alone from DoW.

Observation 4: Though I am in favor of most of the changes listed absolutly no time table was hinted at. When can we expect to start seeing implementation? Do you have a projected completion time? While I understand that all dates would be subject to change an indication of your thimking on this would be beneficial.

[Wrekage]

YESSSS!!Bring us FF11-2 PLEASE!!!! WHOOOO SO HAPPY!!!!
Was so happy i dug out my authenticator just to post to say SE is finally going the right way!!!
WHOO FF11-2!!!

[Reika]

YESSSS!!Bring us FF11-2 PLEASE!!!! WHOOOO SO HAPPY!!!!
Was so happy i dug out my authenticator just to post to say SE is finally going the right way!!!
WHOO FF11-2!!!

Thats how it looks...

Well to this day I don't understand physical level. So I won't be missing much when that's gone...

I'm really really excited about everything mentioned, except for the job system. Yeah I understand I'm a minority here, and yes we know little to nothing about it yet, but as of right now It just doesn't sound appealing. To me I feel the current diverse class system is perfect, and needed adjustments, not a system to break it down. But of course I welcome all changes with open arms as many of you will too and look forward to the future of XIV.

By the way, THANK YOU SO MUCH for revising and redoing abilities. I love THM it's a shame all I ever really use is just a few spells and the rest don't get any love.

When you're going from a r50 class to a r1 class you'll miss physical levels. you already had the stats readily avaliable. all they had to do was make stat setups saved to each class. Without physical levels, your new job will have brand-new player stats. but maybe some people want it that way, so it will be back to lfg for those weak encounters and you cant just solo your leves if you cant find a party, since your stats will be a lot lower for your lower rank jobs.

[Sorel]

Without physical levels, your new job will have brand-new player stats.

Akihiko Matsui didn't actually state that's what would happen. He just said that stat gains would be keyed to gaining rank. It is entirely possible that once you gain a stat point you get to keep it no matter what class you change to.

It is possible (i.e. speculation) that ranking up different classes would gain you different stat points. So a player who went straight Gladiator for 50 Ranks gained 100 VIT, 50 STR, and 50 DEX. If that player started to rank up Marauder, they would still get to keep those stat gains from Gladiator.

That would truly be "organic-growth" as originally envisioned by Hiromichi Tanaka.

[Reika]

Akihiko Matsui didn't actually state that's what would happen. He just said that stat gains would be keyed to gaining rank. It is entirely possible that once you gain a stat point you get to keep it no matter what class you change to.

It is possible (i.e. speculation) that ranking up different classes would gain you different stat points. So a player who went straight Gladiator for 50 Ranks gained 100 VIT, 50 STR, and 50 DEX. If that player started to rank up Marauder, they would still get to keep those stat gains from Gladiator.

That would truly be "organic-growth" as originally envisioned by Hiromichi Tanaka.

I doubt that would be the case. tho it is possible, it is most likely going to be stats gained by that class for that class as it ranks up, and be non-transferable.