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  1. #21
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    BlossomRose's Avatar
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    Vali Bergthora
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    Maybe I should watch cutscenes during a run and turn off chat and see what happens . I guess I would be a douche for doing that tho . Can't win right
    I strongly disagree. The cutscenes are there to be watched, by new players and old players alike. You're 100% entitled to watching the cutscenes and keeping your chat window closed, because nobody has a right to shout at you during them.

    That is, in a Duty Finder run. The DF runs for Prae/CM are primarily aimed at players trying to complete the story. That they became popular for speed runs, somehow, is beyond me, because it just isn't right to screw people out of their story cutscenes. It's not hard to just make your own group and queue with that.

    In a premade speed run group, watching the cutscenes is equivalent to trolling, though.
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  2. #22
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    Guevara San
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BlossomRose View Post
    I sincerely disagree with the need to add a penalty for not accepting the queue.

    I happen to like queuing for AK/WP and waiting until I get an in-progress run.

    If SE gave us the ability to select "only join in progress parties" then that would be a much better solution than telling me I can't keep declining the queue until I get what I want.
    This.

    And they should give you 2 minutes at least for accepting.

    I usually never withdraw, but I do not stand there still while waiting for DF to get me into some instance: I craft, gather, exp ACN, sort out inventory and buy/sell from and on the market.

    When I get the Accept/Withdraw window I have 30/40 seconds to end what I am doing and often it is not enough.

    ....this happens especially when exping ACN, since I need to get changed back to my 50 job of choice, but 9 times out of 10 I am engaged in battle or my pet is, so I cannot change soon enough to accept.


    DF acceptance timer is actually the main reason for my ACN to be still at Lv25
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  3. #23
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    Lea Sahaquiel
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    Maybe I should watch cutscenes during a run and turn off chat and see what happens . I guess I would be a douche for doing that tho . Can't win right
    TBH, those guys waited like what... 30-40 minutes for an instance? The least you could do is have some patience.

    I mean, c'mon, the guys who watch cutscenes are the new guys, new players, with soft heart and cookies. Why give them the cold shoulder?

    We tanks have practically no queue time, on top of it all, you can tank CM with just one healer. So, what was the point of ragequit?
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  4. #24
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    Silver Healer
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Asdamine View Post
    TBH, those guys waited like what... 30-40 minutes for an instance? The least you could do is have some patience.

    I mean, c'mon, the guys who watch cutscenes are the new guys, new players, with soft heart and cookies. Why give them the cold shoulder?

    We tanks have practically no queue time, on top of it all, you can tank CM with just one healer. So, what was the point of ragequit?
    Well I ran CM and actually watched the cutscenes for the first time in about 25+ runs . It didn't go so well , another player also wanted to watch cutscenes , a huge argument broke out between him and another player .

    It got pretty ugly fast , the mob started talking about 1st rule of running lvl 50 dungeons is skip cut scenes and watch them in inn blah blah long story short , couple of players left .



    My little experiment proved that watching cutscenes is a bad idea if you want smooth run
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  5. #25
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    Oxide Vanwen
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    Well I ran CM and actually watched the cutscenes for the first time in about 25+ runs . It didn't go so well , another player also wanted to watch cutscenes , a huge argument broke out between him and another player .

    It got pretty ugly fast , the mob started talking about 1st rule of running lvl 50 dungeons is skip cut scenes and watch them in inn blah blah long story short , couple of players left .

    My little experiment proved that watching cutscenes is a bad idea if you want smooth run
    I stand by what I said previously - you're a douche and a liar. Nobody starts a fight when its the tank who sits and watches CS.
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  6. #26
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    Alma Wyndsong
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Oxide_Vanwen View Post
    I stand by what I said previously - you're a douche and a liar. Nobody starts a fight when its the tank who sits and watches CS.
    Um... yeah they do. Their are plenty of people out there that complain about folks watching cutscenes no matter what role they're in. I partially blame SE in putting in so many cutscenes in the last two dungeons and then throwing in rewards for completing them over and over.
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  7. #27
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    Ah yes..it's Square-Enix's fault that people have no patience. It's Square Enix's fault that people who join runs via the Duty Finder should tell New 50s that their story is unimportant to the 5 minutes you'll save by telling them to skip cutscenes. You know...I think every Cutscene in CM and Prae should be mandatory - Just like the cutscene when you first start a new character. Maybe then it will shut up the douchebags who think their time is so important that they can't spare a few moments while someone else finds out why their story has taken them to those dungeons. Place the blame on yourself and people like you...not Square-Enix.
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  8. #28
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    BlossomRose's Avatar
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    Vali Bergthora
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    Hyperion
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    People are allowed to watch cutscenes.

    If people are being rude to people who watch cutscenes, report them.

    The. End.

    There is no further need to argue about this. People can and HAVE gotten banned and suspended for being rude jerks in DF groups demanding people skip cutscenes and cussing at people who don't.

    Long story short, don't do it. Make your own group if you want a speed run.
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  9. #29
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    Alma Wyndsong
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Oxide_Vanwen View Post
    Ah yes..it's Square-Enix's fault that people have no patience.......... Place the blame on yourself and people like you...not Square-Enix.

    Uh... "you"? I never said I don't let people watch Cutscenes, I was just sharing that in my experience it's untrue that arseholes are suddenly patient when it's the tank watching them.

    And yes, it is >>> partially <<< the fault of Square Enix because there will always be those who don't care about the cutscenes and are all "Gogoogo gotta get me some TOMESTONES". In fact they've already admitted to this by trying to rectify and have CM/Prae give less rewards.

    Is it almost entirely the fault of these impatient folks? Of course. But you're never going to do anything about them, so might as well change the game to tell them to go elsewhere.

    I was simply sharing my experiences, no need to get nasty.
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  10. #30
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    Neomar Mitsu
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I repeatedly join and withdraw from the queue as tank for several hours just for fun.
    There is no need to be angry.
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