WAR < PLD - Relatively Small Difference

[OrganizationXIll]

I don't understand why people think there is such a HUGE gap between the WAR and PLD. I have an great WAR in my FC. I prefer him over all Paladins I have played with. The class is generally regarded as a great AoE tank that deals massive damage for a tank. It isn't. Its a tank that has a huge HP pool and recovers it himself.

• My FC WAR uses Inner Beast pretty much every 5 stacks.
• Pops Bloodbath and Thrill of Battle every time they are available.
• Uses Storm's Path or Storms Eye as needed. (Path = Immediate healing and Eye = Every other case)
• Holds aggro better than every Paladin I have ever seen.

I'll admit the healing effects could use some buffs. If used properly the WAR is only a little behind Paladin and it is easily fixable. My Suggestions for SE:

Bloodbath
A) Shorten Cooldown to 60 seconds
B) Increase Potency to 50%

Storm's Eye
A) Add 50% buff to healing received for 15 seconds

Storm's Path
A) Remove 50% buff to healing received
B) Increase slash resistance debuff potency to 15%*

Thrill of Battle
A) Adds a Refresh** with a potency of 50 for 15 seconds ***

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*To help counter the loss of damage due to using Eye over Path
**Refreshes TP rather than WHM's MP Refresh (Maybe different name) (Imbue?)
***The whole effect is an effort to counter the increase TP cost for using Storm's Eye more as it has 20 more TP cost. Thrill of Battle was chosen because it is rarely used despite its decent amount of healing and because its cooldown is the same as the Shroud of Saints refresh.

[Tronic]

I don't understand why people think there is such a HUGE gap between the WAR and PLD.

Get your MRD from lvl 6 to endgame and you'll understand.

• My FC WAR uses Inner Beast pretty much every 5 stacks.
• Pops Bloodbath and Thrill of Battle every time they are available.
• Uses Storm's Path or Storms Eye as needed. (Path = Immediate healing and Eye = Every other case)
• Holds aggro better than every Paladin I have ever seen.

It's obvious your war friend isn't doing endgame content either. All that stuff is swell pre endgame. Except for SP, which always sucks.

[Paikis]

Well this will be interesting to watch.

[OrganizationXIll]

Get your MRD from lvl 6 to endgame and you'll understand.

I play on my cousins account frequently. I have played it and it will be my next class on my account.

It's obvious your war friend isn't doing endgame content either. All that stuff is swell pre endgame. Except for SP, which always sucks.

Actually he is trying Titan HM tonight granted he isn't in the coils yet, but that's not the topic. The topic is that the class is generally thought of as damaging enmity generator when in reality it was intended to focus on healing lost HP. There have been times in Vigil when I didn't heal him for a solid 2 minutes because he was on a role with Inner Beast, Bloodbath and Storms Eye. I understand endgame is more difficult but they aren't that far from on par if you stop trying to deal more damage.

[Lumines]

No one is claiming Warriors are completely useless. Warriors can tank everything just fine until you get into Coils. Then you start to have a waaaay steeper gear requirement to be competitive with Plds.

[oceanlord]

gawd another clueless person...

[Derza]

The issue is warrior mitigation is based off of warrior dps (for the most part) while paladins scale with incoming mob damage... Warriors are better for easy content but paladins start to get way better when the bosses really start to hit hard AKA HM titan and coil - the two places your friend has not been - so your post is pretty much... well worthless. It is already well know where warriors start to fall behind.

[Amyas]

The only people who complain about wars are bad wars and lazy/incompetent healers (usually both).

That said, I really wish bloodbath and storm's path weren't useless in lvl 50 instances...

[oceanlord]

ROFL AMYAS back! one of them warrior who doesnt have relic yet means no titan hm and zero experience in coil as warrior DD still using wanderer palace as an endgame example?ROFL jokes on you Mr. WandererFarmer
btw, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRRaUh5uQJQ can you do that on your GODLIKE war?


what did he post anyway?put him in ignore since a month ago

[ZeroRains]

Storms path is only a 50% healing on the damage you've done, not a buff to healing received. Its almost the most useless ability we have in our arsenal. Have healing received increased based on a percentage, and our class will be fine. Currently paladin is miles ahead in terms of mitigation.