Sea/Sky/Nyzul/ZNM/HNM Can I have It?

[Tazo]

I am puzzled with how many people are scared of competition. This isn't botting, it is all doable with a good FC (much like these hard instances). Not asking for HNMs.
Keep pumping out the repetitive instances for the majority of players that enjoy it.

Various ways of obtaining pop items can be implemented. An area with mobs that have a .1% chance of dropping a pop item. Farm it. A lot of the ways SKY/SEA was made to get pop items was good.

So you will have the players who don't want this kind of competition and will stick to instances. The gear that these instances would drop would only be second to the gear that an FC can obtain from an open world like discussed.

But of course I realize times are changing and the soft/tender players will argue that they want a jp button. So in a way, I agree with you that SE will probably not implement this.

[Zumi]

What you are asking for is outdated might of worked 12 years ago when FFXI came out but it not going to work in a current gen MMO. People don't want to have to camp some area like Sky or Sea for pop items vs a bunch of other groups. Basically 1 group can do the content at any given time.

People like instances where you can go in do the content without worrying about claiming some NM against some other guy who may be botting.

[Tazo]

Judging by this thread and many others spread through out other forums not everyone wants to keep grinding repetitive instances forever. Besides, if you don't want to camp for these items and fight the final boss, then don't, do your instances. One group can not farm all the pop items at any given time...60+ members doing it at the same time, sure.

Botting was an issue at the start because SE was not prepared for it. Once SE started getting complaints of RMT LSs botting sky NMs, they moved in swiftly and started banning them like crazy (HNM botting was left alone because EVERYONE was doing it). Knowing what they know now, I think it would be easy to keep botters away from 4-6 areas where NMs pop.

[Jocko]

What you are asking for is outdated might of worked 12 years ago when FFXI came out but it not going to work in a current gen MMO. People don't want to have to camp some area like Sky or Sea for pop items vs a bunch of other groups. Basically 1 group can do the content at any given time.

People like instances where you can go in do the content without worrying about claiming some NM against some other guy who may be botting.

No, what he's asking for is the game not to be a one trick pony like most modern MMOs. Sadly I think Square is playing it far, far too safe with ARR. I'm honestly missing 1.23 at this point

[Shiyo]

I want open world content with poppable bosses that auto-claim to your party and no one outside your party can assist you in any way(can't cure like with /healaid off from FFXI and can't attack using the leve coding in this game). Could make normal enemies drop the pop items like Abyssea, then you trade those to something and it pops a boss that also drops a pop item, and you chain doing this until you get to the hardest boss(es).

No competition(besides killing ~20 1 minute repop mobs over and over), open world, no lock out timers, no restrictions, not generic linear corridor dungeons and unique content.

Basically 1 group can do the content at any given time.

That's completely wrong, if you put 20 normal enemies that drop the first tier pop item on a 1 min repop, then make every boss a force pop that chains into harder and higher tier bosses until you get to the highest tiers, potentially 20+ groups can be doing this content at all the same time. You don't add ANY drop items from anything that isn't a forced auto-claimed to your party pop besides the first tier dropping from 20+ 1 min repop enemies. You then allow an infinite amount of the poppable enemy up at the same time, and the technology already exists for this via quests/story quests.

edit: To the people saying "go play FFFX" you obviously haven't played FFXI in over 5 years, it's not the same game at all now, and the newest expansion ruined it much worse than anything ever has.

[Starlord]

Diversity. Diversity. Diversity.

You'll get it when the game has been out for awhile and patches/expansions have been put into the game.

[Melisenna]

Sea/Sky/Nyzul/ZNM/HNM Can I have it?

You most certainly can!

[Caselia]

This was beaten to death in beta, it's not going to happen. Yoshi said he's interested in adding sky zones and an underwater zones, but that's far down the road.

[Tazo]

Another great thing to add is Placeholders. 20-30 normal mobs and one of them has a 1% chance to pop a NM that is auto claimed to the person who claimed the placeholder. The NM will have a say 25% chance of dropping a pop item or a rare item. This alone will make botting useless for example.

[Melisenna]

Yeeeeah, so having placeholders didn't make botting useless. In a group of however many mobs, only ONE of them would be the placeolder for the NM. People would then use a 3rd party program to be able to track that specific mob via it's ID.