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  1. #11
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    Shneibel's Avatar
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    People don't just AoE down the adds?

    And the few cases where DPS has been pretty poor, I've died horribly, even if I Esuna'd off Heavy/Paralysis. By the time you've gotten those debuffs off, the boss will have caught up and oneshot you.
    I know how that feel, been there done that but as last mand standing

    but the main reason is because the DD dont target and kill the add as soon as they pop but mindless dmg the boss, the adds are very weak that you can even use GC wep to kill em quick

    and some pt, you dont have the aoe cability to burst down the add, like MNK and DRG, they both have aoe but weak and it is faster for them to single burst the target down, and SMN aoe is build overtime, is good but not in that situation where you prefer burst
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  2. #12
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    Kule Ito
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 75
    I play whm and just before adds spawn i drop stoneskin+regen on the tank and then run to where he is and hit cleric stance and then holy a few times. That's usually enough to kill all the adds.
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  3. #13
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    I ll mark it in red for you:



    paralize is not a threat if you remove it and healer have time to do that, WHM or SCH both jobs have skill to assit esuna/(dont remember name of SCH skill)
    Since you didn't seem to understand what I wrote:
    If Purple tosses Paralyze on HEALER, Esuna can be interrupted and interrupted repeatedly when the HEALER tries to get it off.
    Interruption from Paralyze also affects movement.
    If tank and dps in that situation can't keep control of the puddings, healer ends up dead.
    Therefore, Purple second to prevent (or at least reduce the risk) that healer is being paralyzed.

    Your claim that healer can't figure out how to use Esuna is so wrong that it's insane and is an insult to the majority of WHM's out there.
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  4. #14
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    lololink's Avatar
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Blue heals.
    Purple paralyzes.
    White slows.
    Green puts a DoT.
    Yellow puts a shield on the boss.
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  5. #15
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Since you didn't seem to understand what I wrote:
    If Purple tosses Paralyze on HEALER, Esuna can be interrupted and interrupted repeatedly when the HEALER tries to get it off.
    Interruption from Paralyze also affects movement.
    If tank and dps in that situation can't keep control of the puddings, healer ends up dead.
    Therefore, Purple second to prevent (or at least reduce the risk) that healer is being paralyzed.

    Your claim that healer can't figure out how to use Esuna is so wrong that it's insane and is an insult to the majority of WHM's out there.
    the time between every interrupt is enough time to remove it, and sadly but no most of the healer out there does not have problem with the purple paralize, the amount of pt demand kill purple 2nd is less than you think

    and I will not get into the control pudding, it is tank job, kill pudding is DD job, and even WHM can holy those pudding but I will not get into that either

    note: when your cast get interrupt, you can press it again and the skill will use and the paralize will go away...like you know...magical remove and there is enough time to heal the tank between every interrupt, the interupt is repeat but not continues every second
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 10-17-2013 at 08:04 PM.

  6. #16
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    Aaleria Mireizel
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Well, just yesterday I had a group wipe consistently, me tanking btw. And not just any group, it was a decent geared monk and 5+DL SCH and BLM. They had this crazy idea of me just tanking as many adds as possible, while they didn't even nuked the boss or anything. The funny part was the healer being fucused by 20 adds and the boss, not moving an inch, and then shouting "the tank fkin sucks" before rage quiting. So people don't just have different add killing orther, or methods, some of them prefer to not do anything at all. Aside from that, if your party can nuke-aoe the adds, this is a non issue.
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  7. #17
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I am amazed no one mentioned this yet but: why does noone seem to use the potions removing status alignments? Spine/echo drops are a must have for any healer, the rest is not so critical.
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  8. #18
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    Bahram Arendt
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    If I'm going into DF for WP I tend to play as WHM so I can use holy to carry slow DPS through the second boss.
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  9. #19
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    Anarza Namanka
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Each of adds has a debuff they put on you and if done, could probably cause your unwanted death.

    Quote Originally Posted by GYX View Post
    They had this crazy idea of me just tanking as many adds as possible, while they didn't even nuked the boss or anything.
    Maybe because grouping the adds make it easier for them to nuke in this fight? Or am i missing something? Cuz i usually just grab the 3 on the left side before grabbing the one on the left.... 2 flashes.... just sayin. Shit i even help DPS the adds, those f*ckers are annoying and need to die fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    what are you supposed to do if you are the one that gets targeted by it? I read you are supposed to run and kite it until it goes back to the tank but that didnt seem right.
    Yup, kite that sucker. Stay as FAR away from it as possible.
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    Last edited by Keneblerz; 10-17-2013 at 10:16 PM.

  10. #20
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Since we're discussing this boss, what are you supposed to do if you are the one that gets targeted by it? I read you are supposed to run and kite it until it goes back to the tank but that didnt seem right. One if the times I got targeted I did this and when I ran past the healer with it it aaoed and killed the healer.

    Im not talking about pulling hate but when the boss puts a target on a random player.
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