Sargatanas, bot Teleport farming !!

[olivergod]

quote from botters, this is ridiculous! must stop!

"I meant dungeon teleport farming, I can solo some bosses by teleporting to an elevated position and take no dmg. I want a full party of people I can trust to go around dungeons and primals HM for some easy/fast wins. for example I can solo Garuda HM, but takes about 15 min plus only if everyone leaves. Wont do it in front of people. I have an idea of how to do Titan HM as well, but that requires a few more guys."

"Update: I have found a group of people whose doing this sort of thing. We currently have 7 members, so far trustworthy and had a blast running AK teleport earlier. (Please be mature/18+ / subtle use of hacks/ no previous suspensions related to using hacks/no teleport gathering ect.. ) If this is you and you're interested in joining our team, then leave me your IGN in my Inbox, we could use some variety of class functions for future coil runs..ect."

[Vagrant-0]

The problem isn't bots.

The problem is that SE doesn't seem to care about people using bots. Bots are not something new to SE, bots aren't something new to MMOs, and they've had well over 2 weeks to get a handle of things. Sure, RMT spam has declined slightly. But my my brief survey of botted areas it looks like nothing has changed. There are still half a dozen bots moving around between level 5 nodes. There are still bots camping farming locations (now with quicker respawn so they earn more). And there instances like this, where individuals are using similar exploits to breeze through dungeons and high challenge fights with ease.

It's discouraging to honest players, and erodes faith that the company running the game even cares. This should not STILL be an issue.

[Sajomir]

The problem isn't bots.

The problem is that SE doesn't seem to care about people using bots. Bots are not something new to SE, bots aren't something new to MMOs, and they've had well over 2 weeks to get a handle of things. Sure, RMT spam has declined slightly. But my my brief survey of botted areas it looks like nothing has changed.

It's discouraging to honest players, and erodes faith that the company running the game even cares. This should not STILL be an issue.

*ahem*
It is impossible to stop every bot. Expecting them to have done so in 2 weeks is ridiculous. There is a reason bots are common in every MMO. Real life police can't possibly prevent every crime; similarly, techies at a software company cannot stop every cheater.

Hell, aimbots in FPS games have been around forever, and they're still not gone. Must mean that Valve/Epic/id/insert-company-here is totally imcompetent, too, right?

[Masked]

*ahem*
It is impossible to stop every bot. Expecting them to have done so in 2 weeks is ridiculous.

Actually...It's not.

Assuming SE has a full back-end log, botting could be simply picked up with an algorithm.

It's the same way SOE dealt with MQ2...And did so within hours most of the time...If SOE can do something within a few hours, it's extremely possible for a company the size of SE to do something about it within the same time-frame.

The real issue here, however, is the lack of in-game support and/or support in general because, had the NA servers been staffed like Rift, current Aion, DAOC or WoW...There wouldn't be open botting/RMT.

At the moment, it's taking 2 weeks for ANY formal response to a NA issue where as most Japanese issues are solved within a day/matter of hours.

We need better service. With better service and an actual presence, 90% of the issues we currently have with RMT and "botting" would be solved on site.

[jdnyc]

We need better service. With better service and an actual presence, 90% of the issues we currently have with RMT and "botting" would be solved on site.

This right here. The NA/EU support is atrocious. They are overwhelmed and seriously understaffed based on how long they get back to you. It's either that or they have awful workers/managers not doing their job.

[Tupsi]

Actually...It's not.

If it's not impossible why is it that every MMO as of today have an issue with people using bots, hacks or other exploits?

[Masked]

If it's not impossible why is it that every MMO as of today have an issue with people using bots, hacks or other exploits?

Anyone can BOT...I can point you to torrent sites where you can download them and go within the next 15 minutes...That's not the point.

SOE, Rift, DAOC, WoW, even GW2, constantly monitor their servers for specific algorithms...Do some people get through? Sure...It's always possible...Look at MQ2.

The difference with those companies is customer service. If someone reported that issue, it is dealt with IMMEDIATELY, not 2 weeks later.

You can see this in WoW. Watch a bot-gatherer, report him...Sit afk for 2-3 hours, he's perma-banned...Then another one pops up doing the exact same thing is perma-banned because they noted the algorithm.

We have a lack of service so, this is allowed to fester and if it was dealt with immediately, it wouldn't be a big deal -- 2 weeks later is a big deal.

[Sinth]

The problem isn't bots.

The problem is that SE doesn't seem to care about people using bots. Bots are not something new to SE, bots aren't something new to MMOs, and they've had well over 2 weeks to get a handle of things. Sure, RMT spam has declined slightly. But my my brief survey of botted areas it looks like nothing has changed. There are still half a dozen bots moving around between level 5 nodes....

It's discouraging to honest players, and erodes faith that the company running the game even cares. This should not STILL be an issue.

Claiming that SE doesn't care about bots when they ban them after they are reported is ridiculous. You have no evidence to back up your claim and you are doing a disservice to the community by claming that SE doesn't ban reported cheaters (if they are indeed cheating). I have reported 3 teleport gathering bots and all 3 were banned.

[Meimei]

Claiming that SE doesn't care about bots when they ban them after they are reported is ridiculous. You have no evidence to back up your claim and you are doing a disservice to the community by claming that SE doesn't ban reported cheaters (if they are indeed cheating). I have reported 3 teleport gathering bots and all 3 were banned.

How about all their years of inaction, apathy and terrible customer service in FFXI that basically allowed the RMT to run unchecked for years, and completely destroy any semblance of stability the economy once had, before actually attempting to do anything about them? That "evidence" enough for you?

Other MMOs actually deal with their problems on a prompt basis. Go try them and see how minimal the RMT/botter presence is if ya don't believe me.

They're repeating the same mistakes of old. No amount of white knighting can cover that up, kids.

They just don't care.

[Brutallyn]

i read somewhere an explanation why they dont ban people instantly.
They keep them running for a while to be able to track down all the other accounts used by the RMTer.
so not just the bot farmer, but also the seller of set shards, and the bank char with the gil, and the advertisement accounts, and everything else.
They just can't see all those accounts from 1 bot.
Just takes time.

Kinda like shouting at the police for not arresting that kid with 1 small bag of coke, and not seeing that the police is already investigating the maffia family behind it ..