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  1. #11
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh View Post
    Until people learn that it is against TOS to be abusive to fellow players for any reason... even for using the content the way it was designed to be used, unfortunately content that is a magnet for abuse will likely be changed to accommodate a more civil play environment. Go figure, when it probably takes more effort and time to be verbally abusive than it does to communicate the same message politely.
    Wouldn't it make more sense to...you know...punish the people being abusive?

    I mean, people can get abusive about anything. Does that mean we shouldn't have raids, shouldn't have 5 mans, shouldn't have a game at all because some jerk decides to be a social-malcontent on the internet? Um, no? It means that if that jerk decides to be a social-malcontent, they suffer consequences for it. You don't punish everyone else who did nothing wrong by making their lives more difficult. That's just plain stupid.
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  2. #12
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    Dark Devices is "Working as intended"

    You can still get what like 80k exp from the whole chain? I mean man it's like leveling so slow guys it may takes hours instead of minutes!
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  3. #13
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    Inq's Avatar
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    Striopach A'aingidh
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Wouldn't it make more sense to...you know...punish the people being abusive?

    I mean, people can get abusive about anything. Does that mean we shouldn't have raids, shouldn't have 5 mans, shouldn't have a game at all because some jerk decides to be a social-malcontent on the internet? Um, no? It means that if that jerk decides to be a social-malcontent, they suffer consequences for it. You don't punish everyone else who did nothing wrong by making their lives more difficult. That's just plain stupid.
    If, as a developer, I have the choice between fixing a problem at its source, or devoting numerous man hours of support to policing children on the internet, I choose the first option, every single time.

    I levelled to 50 doing DD as it is now, before people realized it could be abused, and there was never any drama in that zone. When I spent time there after, getting MIN to 50, every time it came up, there was all kinds of tears and threats of blacklistings and reporting for harassment. They did the right thing imho.
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  4. #14
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    Lissyl's Avatar
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    Elsabette Manaya
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    Lamia
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    Culinarian Lv 36
    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Wouldn't it make more sense to...you know...punish the people being abusive?

    I mean, people can get abusive about anything. Does that mean we shouldn't have raids, shouldn't have 5 mans, shouldn't have a game at all because some jerk decides to be a social-malcontent on the internet? Um, no? It means that if that jerk decides to be a social-malcontent, they suffer consequences for it. You don't punish everyone else who did nothing wrong by making their lives more difficult. That's just plain stupid.
    Yes, it would make a lot more sense to punish the abusive. The entire community had a chance to do so and didn't. Instead, they stand idly by and let the abuse continue. While I get where you're coming from, SE isn't going to enforce that on people most likely. It's up to us. Perhaps this incident will serve as a warning: Let the abusers abuse and you'll lose out on the benefits also.
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    "Once the landslide has begun, it is too late for the pebbles to vote."

  5. #15
    Player Hrist_Valkyrie's Avatar
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    Ingrid Randgrior
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    You can level another class without DD easily. I've done it and I'm a filthy casual.
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  6. #16
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    Animation's Avatar
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    White Mage
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hrist_Valkyrie View Post
    You can level another class without DD easily. I've done it and I'm a filthy casual.
    Please go back and re-read my post! I don't care about the exp at all, the area has died and no one is around. I enjoy meeting new people even if it is on the internet.
    FATEs are a great place to meet new people.
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  7. #17
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    Nura's Avatar
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    Tiberia Melanith
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    Phoenix
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    What happend with DD? I played it jesterday? My Server is Full of PÜeople in Norther Thanalan and You get shitton of XP from DD just like befor. Well the Spawn point changed and everyone is standing on the Hpouse now but it still gives fucking much XP lol.
    Don't get what could be wrong with it?
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    I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
    He who learns but does not think, is lost. He who thinks but does not learn is in great danger.

  8. #18
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    bluefog is still a solid source of XP, i can't imagine people wanting to skip it just because it's not AS good as it used ot be.
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  9. #19
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyko View Post
    Some people are so selfish they think their entitlement to 250 seals trumps that of the 199 other people trying to level just a little bit faster. Or they think they're the self appointed judge of what's an exploit and what isn't, so therefore no one should have experience. Stupid, really.
    Uhhh... you do realize the devs are the ones that decided to fix it? lol.
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  10. #20
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    OrionInerghem's Avatar
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    Aldebaron Phoenix
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Must just be your server.



    2hrs ago I had to equip flash to be able to "tag" a mob and get EXP before it died in .3 secs.
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