Dark Devices is dead.

[Volcano]

It most certainly is your server, people still do DD very often and go to it the moment it is up, the only thing that changed is the infinite spawns are gone. it is still a great source of experience. I don't know what kind of person thinks that it's dead simply because of a minor change. all it did was breed hate and anger between people, It needed to go. or this hatestorm would have continued.

[Kaedan94]

It's actually a good thing they changed the infinite spawns. You'd get groups being incredibly abusive saying, "Don't kill the Lambs, farm the XP!!!!!" and then going on to be incredibly rude about it. What those rude players didn't understand is that if your party isn't lucky enough to claim the spawns, you get no XP from the kill because you won't be able to do enough damage to claim shared credit (die far too fast). So for the vast majority of the players participating in the FATE, it's worthless to sit and farm the Lunatics because you won't be getting any XP anyway (unless you have someone very good at claiming mobs and has an amazingly low latency).

It was a good change. Now you have to progress with it regardless.

[Animation]

People are missing the point I was trying to make..

[Inq]

That NT is dead on an EU server in the middle of their night?

You can still do FATEs like you want, or did they remove all the FATEs on your server?

Or is it that you want them to return the broken FATE, even though it brought out the worst in people because you could level fast on a broken FATE?

[Amberion]

Or is it that you want them to return the broken FATE, even though it brought out the worst in people because you could level fast on a broken FATE?

I'm I the only one that never saw that happening?

I did not spend several days in the area, but did spend my fair share of time there.

Are people just nicer during my time/server, or did people just not kill the lambs and trigger the abuse?

[muwa]

It's actually a good thing they changed the infinite spawns. You'd get groups being incredibly abusive saying, "Don't kill the Lambs, farm the XP!!!!!" and then going on to be incredibly rude about it. What those rude players didn't understand is that if your party isn't lucky enough to claim the spawns, you get no XP from the kill because you won't be able to do enough damage to claim shared credit (die far too fast). So for the vast majority of the players participating in the FATE, it's worthless to sit and farm the Lunatics because you won't be getting any XP anyway (unless you have someone very good at claiming mobs and has an amazingly low latency).

It was a good change. Now you have to progress with it regardless.

You don't need to claim mobs to get xp/kill credit, you only have to do about 1/3 of the damage.
Claim only who gets the drops. Only the player/group who claimed the mob will get item or gil drops.

[Caraway]

Please go back and re-read my post! I don't care about the exp at all, the area has died and no one is around. I enjoy meeting new people even if it is on the internet.
FATEs are a great place to meet new people.

People are missing the point I was trying to make..

No, we get it. It's just that those of us posting "We don't get you" wouldn't want anything to do socially with the sort of people who camped DD and AE spammed the infinite waves of adds.

Seriously. Why would I want to talk with someone who threatens someone else's family over killing pixels?

No, this is a good thing. The change was needed, and the effect will be a net gain on the community.

[Appleh4x]

I'm I the only one that never saw that happening?

I did not spend several days in the area, but did spend my fair share of time there.

Are people just nicer during my time/server, or did people just not kill the lambs and trigger the abuse?

Any time a lamb was killed on my server people ask them to stop please, and they do. No drama on the lambs. Sucks that I can't use it to spiritbond now, but whatever, this whole hotfix was a bust IMO.

[Ryios]

While I am sad it got nerfed, it still gives out a lot of exp. It's 4 fates back to back.... That's like 60-80k exp in < 10 minutes making it the best fate chain in the game, nerfed or not.

And actually I would argue that farming DD was slower than fate changing. When farming DD you drag it out an extra 15 minutes and 2 fates spawn in that window. Where as if you had finished it and moved on to GBoss and the other fates up and downed them all it would have been more experience overall.

Secondly, people can Farm Mobs without DD, instead of sitting at the aetheryte waiting for a fate to pop, take your PT and walk 50 feet that way and kill mobs for the same amount of EXP or more.

[Obreck]

It's terrible. All those trolls that would intentionally kill the lambs solely to get a reaction out of people, how will they grief now?

Most likely the change was due to the drama it was causing, drama that went both ways. The majority of times the lambs were killed prematurely on my server it was done by the same 3-4 people who were only there to troll. They liked to openly admit as such, so no they weren't just there for the seals/being misunderstood. And those said people would do it for hours on end, day after day, so lets not pretend the foul language directed towards the lamb killers was a one way streak.