Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
You know ruin and ruin II take the same GCD, right? Don't be using Ruin II unless you can't use Ruin. If a mob is at 50%, say the Soldier or Dreadnought, there is no reason to use Ruin II over Ruin. The only time to, maybe, use Ruin II is sub-10% since the damage comes earlier than Ruin, and that's only if you aren't confident in your group.


..There is a real reason. Are you putting thunder on each target? Miasma II? If you're doing optimal AoE DPS, you bleed dry fast. Definitely don't use Ruin II unless necessary. DoT + Bane/Contagion -> Shadow Flare -> Thunder each target if under 4 targets -> Miasma II -> Spam Ruin or Tri-Disaster if over 4 targets.

If there's 4+ Targets do Miasma II before Thunder, and use Tri-Disaster.

I have yet to see why you wouldn't use ruin II. I have a few seconds after putting all DoTs (this includes shadow flare, thunder, and even crappy miasma II, like you mentioned) where there's nothing left to cast-- and you can cast ruin II faster than ruin, thus faster damage. MP is never an issue on summoner and I don't see how you could run out so quickly where you'd actually use RUIN over ruin 2. RUIN II is faster damage... it's instant cast: this means more DPS than slow ruin.