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    Rekujen's Avatar
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    Rekuja Azalon
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    How to make levelling alts more enjoyable

    Just my suggestion on how to improve the leveling experience, especially for alts when nobody is doing fates in the 1-30 zones... trust me, this will happen once the game ages and everyone is 50. It's already happening, Central Shroud was empty last night and I saw multiple fates expiring.


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    1. Dungeons

    Completion Bonus: This should always be there, even if you've already done the dungeon before. Not only that, the completion bonus itself should be increased tenfold. It's my opinion that dungeons should give the same hourly exp rate of fate farming, if not more...

    The problem with FATES is that all you do with your class is hotkey the aoes and run in blind folded... this is not a great way to learn the class. On my THM all i did was spam blizzard 2, i never used any good abilities and rotations unless it was a Fate boss. How is this fun?

    Dungeon Buff: EXP increase for killing dungeon monsters and triple that EXP increase for killing dungeon bosses. This already happens to some degree but it should be increased a lot more.

    Daily Dungeon Leves: Why don't you add leves that are specifically setup for dungeons? for example, go into Sastasha and kill XYZ, come back and I'll give you XYZ experience. The leve quests will scale with your level, if you initiate it at level 15, you will get Sastasha leve quest... talk to Leve NPC at 32? it'll be Brayflox Longstop, etc.

    2. Guild Hests

    Completion Bonus: Again, this should be increased and reset when you swap classes. I don't understand why this is only viable once and ONCE only? it shouldn't be bound to "character" but instead, should be bound to the "class" you're playing. Not only will this help with queue times but it would add more variety to the game.

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    These are just some suggestions, whether they are too complex or eat too much dev team, that's another story... but since you're adding an MVP system to dungeons, don't you think revamping them a little is also a good idea? like i said, this will help in 2 ways, the queue times will be quicker and it will also add variety to leveling alts.

    If you don't want to add all these complications to the game, a simple solution would be to simply increase dungeon monster and boss exp and increase the completion bonus by giving more exp and rewarding it to everyone, even if they have done the dungeon already.

    cheers.
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    Last edited by Rekujen; 10-17-2013 at 08:44 AM.

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    Why do people both with Alts other than for Cross-classes anyway? You can't gear them efficiently at end game unless you decide to opt for the more expensive subscription and level multiple characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Why do people both with Alts other than for Cross-classes anyway? You can't gear them efficiently at end game unless you decide to opt for the more expensive subscription and level multiple characters.
    He is not talking about alt characters, but rather alt classes/jobs on the same character. There is no point in making additional characters aside from maybe RP or just wanting to be multiple races. You cannot even trade items or send items to your alt character without a 3rd party helping.

    I agree with the OP that dungeon exp should be bumped significantly. I find FATE parties are generally less social as well and the reason I play this style of game is to be social and have fun with other people, not to spam aoes in the middle of a swarm of players to claim mobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    He is not talking about alt characters, but rather alt classes/jobs on the same character. There is no point in making additional characters aside from maybe RP or just wanting to be multiple races. You cannot even trade items or send items to your alt character without a 3rd party helping.
    I am talking about classes too. If you're someone who enjoys playing lots of classes, this game isn't for you, unless you pay the higher subscription fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    I am talking about classes too. If you're someone who enjoys playing lots of classes, this game isn't for you, unless you pay the higher subscription fee.
    Because some people wish to have multiple classes at 50 on their main character. There's nothing wrong with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Because some people wish to have multiple classes at 50 on their main character. There's nothing wrong with this.
    Yes, but you can't gear them. So I'm not quite seeing the point of having multiple character if you can't gear them as well as your main.
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    The guildhest bonus always confused me a bit as well. Isn't the point of those to help you get familiar with your role in parties? If so, why limit the bonus to only your first go around? I think they should extend the bonus to your first run on all jobs.
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    I love playing multiple roles. My first 50 is BRD, second will be WAR (@42), and third will be WHM (@29). That being said, I love your suggestions. I want Dungeons to be worthwhile, as I love group efforts and I feel FATEs are much too easy for the payout it provides. And @Garnatian, gearing up a character in DL is more than enough to tackle everything this game has to offer currently, and competently might I add. I have no problems running coil with just my Bard, and having Warrior and White Mage for other events (helping others with HM, AK farming, relic quest, etc).
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    Rekuja Azalon
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    low level dungeons should also reward GC Seals and Philosophy tomes for level 50 players, Myth will remain level 50 dungeons only.

    again, this will help with dungeon pops and push your "MVP" system a lot more.
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    seeing how you can get as much ToPs as you want you can easily gear every class out, getting dl gear takes no effort just patience heck relic not plus 1 is still better then most weapons and relic doesn't take more then a day to get. so full dl and relic weapon you can't get much better then that. other then af2 and allagan but those don't matter that much you will get the items you want over time but still its just 3 weeks a class for relic +1 and seeing how af2 gear it's self is worthless why bother getting it? to show something off that took you no effort to get just time?
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