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    Rekuja Azalon
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    How to make levelling alts more enjoyable

    Just my suggestion on how to improve the leveling experience, especially for alts when nobody is doing fates in the 1-30 zones... trust me, this will happen once the game ages and everyone is 50. It's already happening, Central Shroud was empty last night and I saw multiple fates expiring.


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    1. Dungeons

    Completion Bonus: This should always be there, even if you've already done the dungeon before. Not only that, the completion bonus itself should be increased tenfold. It's my opinion that dungeons should give the same hourly exp rate of fate farming, if not more...

    The problem with FATES is that all you do with your class is hotkey the aoes and run in blind folded... this is not a great way to learn the class. On my THM all i did was spam blizzard 2, i never used any good abilities and rotations unless it was a Fate boss. How is this fun?

    Dungeon Buff: EXP increase for killing dungeon monsters and triple that EXP increase for killing dungeon bosses. This already happens to some degree but it should be increased a lot more.

    Daily Dungeon Leves: Why don't you add leves that are specifically setup for dungeons? for example, go into Sastasha and kill XYZ, come back and I'll give you XYZ experience. The leve quests will scale with your level, if you initiate it at level 15, you will get Sastasha leve quest... talk to Leve NPC at 32? it'll be Brayflox Longstop, etc.

    2. Guild Hests

    Completion Bonus: Again, this should be increased and reset when you swap classes. I don't understand why this is only viable once and ONCE only? it shouldn't be bound to "character" but instead, should be bound to the "class" you're playing. Not only will this help with queue times but it would add more variety to the game.

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    These are just some suggestions, whether they are too complex or eat too much dev team, that's another story... but since you're adding an MVP system to dungeons, don't you think revamping them a little is also a good idea? like i said, this will help in 2 ways, the queue times will be quicker and it will also add variety to leveling alts.

    If you don't want to add all these complications to the game, a simple solution would be to simply increase dungeon monster and boss exp and increase the completion bonus by giving more exp and rewarding it to everyone, even if they have done the dungeon already.

    cheers.
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    Last edited by Rekujen; 10-17-2013 at 08:44 AM.

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    Why do people both with Alts other than for Cross-classes anyway? You can't gear them efficiently at end game unless you decide to opt for the more expensive subscription and level multiple characters.
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    Doctor Pepper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Why do people both with Alts other than for Cross-classes anyway? You can't gear them efficiently at end game unless you decide to opt for the more expensive subscription and level multiple characters.
    He is not talking about alt characters, but rather alt classes/jobs on the same character. There is no point in making additional characters aside from maybe RP or just wanting to be multiple races. You cannot even trade items or send items to your alt character without a 3rd party helping.

    I agree with the OP that dungeon exp should be bumped significantly. I find FATE parties are generally less social as well and the reason I play this style of game is to be social and have fun with other people, not to spam aoes in the middle of a swarm of players to claim mobs.
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 10-17-2013 at 08:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    He is not talking about alt characters, but rather alt classes/jobs on the same character. There is no point in making additional characters aside from maybe RP or just wanting to be multiple races. You cannot even trade items or send items to your alt character without a 3rd party helping.
    I am talking about classes too. If you're someone who enjoys playing lots of classes, this game isn't for you, unless you pay the higher subscription fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    I am talking about classes too. If you're someone who enjoys playing lots of classes, this game isn't for you, unless you pay the higher subscription fee.
    Because some people wish to have multiple classes at 50 on their main character. There's nothing wrong with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Because some people wish to have multiple classes at 50 on their main character. There's nothing wrong with this.
    Yes, but you can't gear them. So I'm not quite seeing the point of having multiple character if you can't gear them as well as your main.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Yes, but you can't gear them. So I'm not quite seeing the point of having multiple character if you can't gear them as well as your main.
    You totally can. It just takes a while longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    You totally can. It just takes a while longer.

    Well you can't use Myth stones since by the time you have fully AF2ed out your character, the next set of gear will probably be in place and you can't use BC because other people's mains may want the gear.

    So you'd be saving yourself months if you just paid the higher subscription and made multiple characters. Though that would only deal with the Myth cap problem, I'd imagine most people don't have multiple characters, so if you're in an FC, you most likely won't be running BC twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Well you can't use Myth stones since by the time you have fully AF2ed out your character, the next set of gear will probably be in place and you can't use BC because other people's mains may want the gear.

    So you'd be saving yourself months if you just paid the higher subscription and made multiple characters.
    People play the game differently. You're saying "can't," but what you mean is, "It'll take a lot longer and I would hate to do it that way."
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    Reny Tenz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Yes, but you can't gear them. So I'm not quite seeing the point of having multiple character if you can't gear them as well as your main.
    The only enjoyment you get from a game is when you gear up to the max? That's your way of playing, but many people, including me, enjoy the process of playing as well. Going through all the dungeons as different class. Leveling them, getting new skills, trying new tactics. Understanding how different classes play. I couldn't give a bigger damn if my alt classes won't be able to equip best gear in the game, when my main will be eventually.
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