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[Cendres]

i dont think you guys really understand how hard and how long it takes to make a game. and what kind of stuff goes into it. and even for people who dont know the details of making a game, you should at least know that it takes usualy over a year to make a game. an MMO of course takes a whole lot longer.
and i know theres gonna be someone who gonna say "we're not asking them to make a whole game, just a few improvements" so let me just stop you right there and remind you that your not only asking them to come out with great new content thats fully ready to go on a regular basis but also asking them to completely redo huge portions of the game that have already been completed. (battle system, magic and spells, jobs, monsters .etc) and your expecting it done in game in 1/3 the amount of time it takes for a regular non MMO game to be created.

Most people here don't and it makes reading these forums both hilarious and frustrating. What they've decided to do with the game is a huge undertaking, one I'm not sure was really necessary personally, but it's something that takes a lot of time and I hope they haven't bitten more then they can chew at this point and still expect people to be patient.

Allowing the game to still be playable (with no fees whatsoever) while they are redesigning is HUGE, I wish people were more grateful for it. This would never happen with other MMOs. Never.

[Starlord]

Most people here don't and it makes reading these forums both hilarious and frustrating. What they've decided to do with the game is a huge undertaking, one I'm not sure was really necessary personally, but it's something that takes a lot of time and I hope they haven't bitten more then they can chew at this point and still expect people to be patient.

Allowing the game to still be playable (with no fees whatsoever) while they are redesigning is HUGE, I wish people were more grateful for it. This would never happen with other MMOs. Never.

Exactly, No other MMO that has made mistakes that are P2P would never go THIS long F2P while making a game what it should be, and will be for years to come

[Cendres]

Exactly, No other MMO that has made mistakes that are P2P would never go THIS long F2P while making a game what it should be, and will be for years to come

I'm not sure what you're saying but in case you are saying that no P2P game has made these kind of mistakes you would be very wrong.

Any other MMO with this amount of fail would get shut down, sold, or at best close it's doors while rebuilding. Players would not have accessed to it and they would probably have had already subbed for a few months, examples at the top of my head:

Vanguard
Tabula Rasa
Fury
APB
Chronicles of Spellborn
ect...

Wait I lie a bit Spellborn was free with unlimited access for a time before it ultimately died but not before it had already charged months worth of subs first.

[Cairdeas]

I'm not sure what you're saying but in case you are saying that no P2P game has made these kind of mistakes you would be very wrong.

Any other MMO with this amount of fail would get shut down, sold, or at best close it's doors while rebuilding. Players would not have accessed to it and they would probably have had already subbed for a few months, examples at the top of my head:

Vanguard
Tabula Rasa
Fury
APB
Chronicles of Spellborn
ect...

Wait I lie a bit Spellborn was free with unlimited access for a time before it ultimately died but not before it had already charged months worth of subs first.

Auto Assault may you rest in pieces :/

[IveraIvalice]

I'm not sure what you're saying but in case you are saying that no P2P game has made these kind of mistakes you would be very wrong.

what starlord is trying to say is that no other P2P MMO would go so long without charging money to get a game back on its feet

[Starlord]

I'm not sure what you're saying but in case you are saying that no P2P game has made these kind of mistakes you would be very wrong.

Any other MMO with this amount of fail would get shut down, sold, or at best close it's doors while rebuilding. Players would not have accessed to it and they would probably have had already subbed for a few months, examples at the top of my head:

Vanguard
Tabula Rasa
Fury
APB
Chronicles of Spellborn
ect...

Wait I lie a bit Spellborn was free with unlimited access for a time before it ultimately died but not before it had already charged months worth of subs first.

Never said there wasn't any that has made mistakes, however have they turned it into a F2P for 7+months while losing 12 Billion Yen Just to make this game successful?

[Cendres]

Never said there wasn't any that has made mistakes, however have they turned it into a F2P for 7+months while losing 12 Billion Yen Just to make this game successful?

Nope....??? I have no idea what point you're trying to make other then reinforce what I said. And it's not F2P, it's unlimited access to anyone with a box. F2P I think suggests there's an alternate form of payment like a cash shop.

[Starlord]

Nope....??? I have no idea what point you're trying to make other then reinforce what I said. And it's not F2P, it's unlimited access to anyone with a box. F2P I think suggests there's an alternate form of payment like a cash shop.

Maybe thats what I was trying to do? :/

and if its not F2P right now then what is it.. Im sure am not throwing money in there faces lol =)