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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    Because ffxiv is coming on consoles '-'
    and because it's FINAL FANTASY.
    Online != no stories. Get your shit together.
    H's the definition of a 2010/2011 MMORPG player. All action no storyline is what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Grand Companies of Eorzea should be... A new system for the game

    but now it is... just another storyline quest


    I really want to ask:
    If you love the storyline quests that much... why don't play console games?
    If all you do is bitch and moan, I really want to ask:

    Why don't you quit and leave the forums?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Grand Companies of Eorzea should be... A new system for the game

    but now it is... just another storyline quest


    I really want to ask:
    If you love the storyline quests that much... why don't play console games?
    Its a system of storyline missions, and dungeons. Why do you think console games, and online games are different? the difference is supposed to be the ability to share in a world with other people, the world of any RPG will revolve around story, adventure, and lore. They said early on thier goal was to attract players who enjoy ff series but may never have tried online games, that means it has to have storyline, and a world.

    Eva, you are just a grinder, that is fine, but dont try to make the game worse by suggesting they should just have unmasked grind in everything. The point of an MMORPG is not really only to level up and get leet gears, even less so an FF morpg. You play ffxi? the best gear often involves some story, and requires you to do a bunch of missions that involve story, exploration and the like to get access to it, sea, promivion, sky, dynamis.
    This was actually a strong point of FFXI, and i think its good it will be coming back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    Its a system of storyline missions, and dungeons. Why do you think console games, and online games are different? the difference is supposed to be the ability to share in a world with other people, the world of any RPG will revolve around story, adventure, and lore. They said early on thier goal was to attract players who enjoy ff series but may never have tried online games, that means it has to have storyline, and a world.

    Eva, you are just a grinder, that is fine, but dont try to make the game worse by suggesting they should just have unmasked grind in everything. The point of an MMORPG is not really only to level up and get leet gears, even less so an FF morpg. You play ffxi? the best gear often involves some story, and requires you to do a bunch of missions that involve story, exploration and the like to get access to it, sea, promivion, sky, dynamis.
    This was actually a strong point of FFXI, and i think its good it will be coming back
    then they should tell me what I'll get from finishing those fictions

    I don't care what Amal'ja leader or female roegadyn want to do with the spirit of nature or beastman or whatever

    give me informations about how this system work, screenshot of dungeons and what is award for finishing these quest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    then they should tell me what I'll get from finishing those fictions

    I don't care what Amal'ja leader or female roegadyn want to do with the spirit of nature or beastman or whatever

    give me informations about how this system work, screenshot of dungeons and what is award for finishing these quest
    Sorry. ^-^ You'll just have to wait like everyone else.~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    give me informations about how this system work, screenshot of dungeons and what is award for finishing these quest
    OK. I think I understand where Evangela is coming from now. It's a very reward-centric perspective. There is nothing wrong with that. Players with that perspective probably prefer that the reward should be the starting point of how the game content is presented to us ... like this.
    1. There is a powerful sword.
    2. It is in a dungeon under this volcano.
    3. Only members of some organization have access to the dungeon.
    4. The sword is guarded by powerful fire-based creatures.
    5. If you can get the sword, the organization will let you keep it or turn it in for another reward.

    I have to admit, that is pretty straight-forward and direct. Which is not a bad thing. But some players (like myself) would find they have questions about the above.
    • Who's sword was it originally?
    • How did it get under a volcano?
    • Why does the organization want it?
    • Why is it being guarded?

    To some players, having meaningful answers to the above is almost as important as finding the sword itself.

    To each their own, I guess. Just wanted to say that I think I understand Evangela's position now. I personally don't play in that style, but it is a valid point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorel View Post
    OK. I think I understand where Evangela is coming from now. It's a very reward-centric perspective. There is nothing wrong with that. Players with that perspective probably prefer that the reward should be the starting point of how the game content is presented to us ... like this.
    1. There is a powerful sword.
    2. It is in a dungeon under this volcano.
    3. Only members of some organization have access to the dungeon.
    4. The sword is guarded by powerful fire-based creatures.
    5. If you can get the sword, the organization will let you keep it or turn it in for another reward.

    I have to admit, that is pretty straight-forward and direct. Which is not a bad thing. But some players (like myself) would find they have questions about the above.
    • Who's sword was it originally?
    • How did it get under a volcano?
    • Why does the organization want it?
    • Why is it being guarded?

    To some players, having meaningful answers to the above is almost as important as finding the sword itself.

    To each their own, I guess. Just wanted to say that I think I understand Evangela's position now. I personally don't play in that style, but it is a valid point of view.
    Then that begs the question, why on earth would you hang around here instead of playing one of the current mmos available with their hurrendoues stories, but PHAT LOOTZ available?

    Seems like FFXIV (and previously FFXI's) pretty much singular USP as a semi-story-driven MMO is lost on that kind of player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorel View Post
    • Who's sword was it originally?
    • How did it get under a volcano?
    • Why does the organization want it?
    • Why is it being guarded?

    To some players, having meaningful answers to the above is almost as important as finding the sword itself.

    To each their own, I guess. Just wanted to say that I think I understand Evangela's position now. I personally don't play in that style, but it is a valid point of view.
    that's right! you can dig up all story you want after you gave me that sword, I'll stop complaining and teleport away from your eyesight forever!

    in real life we have soldiers and historians, our goal are not the same but SE only feed everything for historians, making soldiers angry
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    Last edited by Evangela; 05-18-2011 at 11:29 PM.

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    everyone beat me to it :)

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    ok, it's not a fanfiction

    it's a devfiction
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