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  1. #51
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    YeaniNah's Avatar
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    Yeani Sky
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Neridine View Post
    OP, how often does your bird use the healing potency buff?

    3) Ability to use while DFing and ability to do instanced content alongside them (ie, not with random people but where you and a friend could both summon birds and do some light party dungeons).
    4) Actually add stuff to the open world that you would want to do at level 50 that would require your buddy. The open world right now is almost exclusively only good for leveling currently....
    at the first first first video talking about chocobo. Yoshi said we could be 2 player with 2 chocobo and do dungeon. but they took it off ..sadly
    and for medica .some people does farm as party to hang out .. massive killing spray without tank. Just killing the fast each have their mob. so having 1 choco on healer stance while other on free stance for dam .. medica is nice
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  2. #52
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    Omega Xtc
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Neridine View Post
    OP, how often does your bird use the healing potency buff? .
    Just tested it. He refreshes it on himself about 10 seconds after it falls off, so probably no internal GCD. Also tested. He casts it on himself at the same frequency whether in healer mode or free stance.
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  3. #53
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    PerrythePlatypus's Avatar
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    Cid Bojangles
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    There is no purpose to these companions, has anyone done anything outside of a dungeon where having a second person would make or break anything?
    There is no reason to have one...I havn't even done the quest. They shouldn't cost every use ( lettuce) and there should be content that calls for it. But it does, and there isn't.
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  4. #54
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    Omega Xtc
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    Diabolos
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    Archer Lv 50
    See, my whole thing about making a hybrid is that I wanted him to have multiple attacks, but choco cure is too good to pass up. In free stance, he has choco kick, choco drop, choco slash, 30% inc crit rate, 20% increased HP, 10% increased STR, 10% increased Accuracy, 10% increased Mind, Choco Regen and Choco Cure, plus a buff to healing power. I don't know how that could possible be outdone by a chocobo with one tree focus and half those passives. I would try full healer, but that only helps for some jobs. My bird is universally useful for all jobs. Not playing darts here.
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  5. #55
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    Neridine Nightblossom
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaXtc View Post
    Just tested it. He refreshes it on himself about 10 seconds after it falls off, so probably no internal GCD. Also tested. He casts it on himself at the same frequency whether in healer mode or free stance.
    Snap! I was going to go 6 tank 6 DPS 4 healer, but seems I will be going 7 healer 2 DPS 6 tank now
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  6. #56
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    Doctor-'s Avatar
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    The Doctor
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaXtc View Post
    As far as if he gets better... not really. He can tank NOTHING with two of the tank attack nodes, two str nodes, and two crit nodes. Not even tanking auto attacks. His damage is OK with crits around 200. His healing is unstoppable. He crits Choco Cure for 650+ and regen is 45+ a tick. That being said, he is a hybrid and I did not get the top skill in any tree. It's possible that that skill alone is OP for any tree.
    That is not excatly how the companion system works - the passive/actives he gains is based on the specific stance he is in - unless you are in defender or attacker all those crit bonuses are pretty much in active sorry to break it to you :/
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  7. #57
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by YeaniNah View Post
    at the first first first video talking about chocobo. Yoshi said we could be 2 player with 2 chocobo and do dungeon. but they took it off ..sadly
    They want it bring later some months after launch, not at the beginning of the game. Players should first do dungeon run with other players before they can do it with chocobos.
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  8. #58
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    Nenin Poponsand
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor- View Post
    That is not excatly how the companion system works - the passive/actives he gains is based on the specific stance he is in - unless you are in defender or attacker all those crit bonuses are pretty much in active sorry to break it to you :/

    I like how they tell you none of this and instead let you stumble around for countless hours until you decide to run the numbers yourself. And I REALLY like how they don't tell you that the split second you put a point into a chocobo tree you can never reach rank 10 with any other spec.

    I spent a while grinding him to 4 and all points are in defender. He can't pull aggro when I auto attack but I don't want a gimped hybrid if they do change it later.


    Actually if they do change it later it will probably be like gathering. It will become trivial to grind him to r10 in one day and those who did the crazy grind don't even get a consolation prize.
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  9. #59
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nenin View Post
    Actually if they do change it later it will probably be like gathering. It will become trivial to grind him to r10 in one day and those who did the crazy grind don't even get a consolation prize.
    I still hope that we can also train the chocobos we raise ourself so we can have different chocobos with different specs.
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  10. #60
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    Womble O'flaherty
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeChronic View Post
    Yes : Don't do like the Op and throw darts at the skill tree. Focus on one stance, don't gimp yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by GinTama View Post
    You completely messed up the skill points ... you are supposed to put everything in one role.
    If those were true, we wouldn't have any need for a Dev to post this.

    Yes, there is an achievement for hitting Rank 10 in each stance.
    No, your chocobo will not be as effective if you do this.

    "Hybrid" builds have more abilities, greater damage potential and higher stats than "Pure Stance" builds. This is because higher rank abilities cost more SP to make them available. for the same SP cost, you can get Rank 10 in one stance, or Rank 9 in that stance plus Ranks 1-4 in a secondary stance. And gain access to ALL those abilities in "Free Stance".

    If the Rank #10 abilities were jaw-droppingly good, I would agree with you. However, they are AoE abilities with mediocre Potency. You cannot trigger them manually, and the AI is notoriously bad at using AoE abilities sensibly.

    Quote Originally Posted by YeaniNah View Post
    Oh! and free stance yeah its work nice but i notice that i have to switch stance from free stance to healer stance for Choco Cure. Because i was ending up at half of life without he Choco Cure me until i switch him to Healer Stance. But at free Stance he only does Choco Regen.
    In Free Stance, the AI starts trying to Cure whenever either of you drop below 50% HP. In Healing Stance, this threshold is higher (75-80%). The cures will be slightly less regular in Free Stance since it has Autoattacks and other abilities available and can be caught mid-animation whenever the Cure is back off cooldown. As a Paladin, I can reliably idle around 40%-50% HP and get regular Cures from my "Free Stance" Chicken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor- View Post
    That is not excatly how the companion system works - the passive/actives he gains is based on the specific stance he is in - unless you are in defender or attacker all those crit bonuses are pretty much in active sorry to break it to you :/
    You can see very clearly that this is not the case for passives by stacking multiple +HP% passive buffs from more than one stance and observing the corresponding spike in your Chocobo's HP value.

    Stances make abilities and weaponskills unavailable (and in the case of Healer Stance, autoattacks unavailable) but passives stack across stances.
    There's very little reason to run in anything apart from Free Stance unless you specifically want your Chocobo to act as a "Pure Healer" and not melee attack anything.
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    Last edited by Maelwys; 10-18-2013 at 11:32 PM.

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