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  1. #31
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    people tend to forget the auto attack from ifrit, 2.5 sec, the skill have a 3 sec of gcd. on 15 sec you will get 6 auto attack for 5 skill, and as time pass this difference increase. it where come the difference, without requiem foe, ifrit on long fight will deal a bit more of damage. and it enkindle will deal more damage too.
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  2. #32
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    PessimiStick's Avatar
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    Ippon Seionage
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    people tend to forget the auto attack from ifrit, 2.5 sec, the skill have a 3 sec of gcd. on 15 sec you will get 6 auto attack for 5 skill, and as time pass this difference increase. it where come the difference, without requiem foe, ifrit on long fight will deal a bit more of damage. and it enkindle will deal more damage too.
    Except he doesn't. Please look at the parses Keeve has posted which show that you are wrong.
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  3. #33
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    Athena Darkfairy
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    It's easy to test. Get a bunch of STR+ accessories, sic Ifrit on a target dummy using Obey, and compare average damage per hit with and without the STR gear. Make sure you resummon him after changing equipment though.

    He doesn't gain damage for STR the way he does HP from VIT though. It has a smaller modifier, I think.

    And I didn't mean to imply that RS buffed Shadow Flare. It was more just GP for the other DOTs that followed it.

    I thank everyone for the contribution so far. Even I learned something!
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  4. #34
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    PS your opening rotation is wrong.

    If you delay fester until after thunder->Bio, you will most likely (barring high SSpeed and lack of lag) be running out of RS or very very close to it when you do your second fester.

    For example, in your rotation you have your fester only 2 GCDs after the last fester (and also, on GCD, rather than offGCD, which is a big nono, esp during RS).

    Your boss rotation also doesn't include miasma II (still sucks, Kevee!) and Shadowflare (swiftcast shadowflare, which decidedly does NOT suck).

    Also there have been many, many threads on this already >.>

    Though I like your rundown of our utility, you completely forget Eye for an Eye and Virus.
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  5. #35
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    Arcanis Bladewing
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    question:

    if ruin II had 101-106 potency instead of 80, will it be better to use ruin II instead of ruin I?

    because if you include book attacks + instant cast spell = it does more damage than ruin I.
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  6. #36
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Quote Originally Posted by glim View Post
    question:

    if ruin II had 101-106 potency instead of 80, will it be better to use ruin II instead of ruin I?

    because if you include book attacks + instant cast spell = it does more damage than ruin I.
    The mana drain is just too severe.

    SMN already run out of mana primarily because of Thunder being incredibly inefficient, and Ruin II being twice the cost of Ruin is pretty awful.
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  7. #37
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    Khary Moon
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    My SMN is currently 36, but maybe Ruin II would be good to use for big TP moves that you know are coming like Mountain Buster(to of course help the tank take less damage). Just a thought, otherwise it seems kind of inefficient.
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  8. #38
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    Eloise Wynne
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    Difference between Atherflow Stacks

    Hi everyone! I'm new on this board. I still don't understand the difference bet. 1 stack and 2 stacks of aetherflow. Does stack 2 increase the damage and duration of bane and fester?
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_Pollo View Post
    Hi everyone! I'm new on this board. I still don't understand the difference bet. 1 stack and 2 stacks of aetherflow. Does stack 2 increase the damage and duration of bane and fester?
    No, you can think of them as "ammo" for fester/bane.

    Each use of bane/fester/energy drain requires at least 1 stack to be active, and consumes 1.

    So every time you use Aetherflow, it "reloads" the amount of times you can use those abilities.
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