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    SolviteSekai's Avatar
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    Mochizuki Taiyo
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I'd trade my limit for damage and groups that bard gets.

    using limit really isnt that great its one single animation.
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    Durti Monkeytoe
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SolviteSekai View Post
    I'd trade my limit for damage and groups that bard gets.

    using limit really isnt that great its one single animation.
    If you do it right, you can match a Bard's damage output. I can take down a single mob in AK by myself as a bard and tank can put together.
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    SolviteSekai's Avatar
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    Mochizuki Taiyo
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    If you do it right, you can match a Bard's damage output. I can take down a single mob in AK by myself as a bard and tank can put together.
    Personal skill is not relevant.
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    Sakura Ephemera
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    If you do it right, you can match a Bard's damage output. I can take down a single mob in AK by myself as a bard and tank can put together.
    And if a BRD is "doing it right" they'll destroy you in damage. Good examples uhh... any mob with an aoe attack centered on itself or player. Titan HM is 'much' faster with BRDs for DDs as they can continue to damage the boss while dodging bombs/plumes etc. There's simply no way a melee DPS is going to compete with a BRD. The demon wall in AK is another example. With repels and such, no one is going to beat BRDs. In fact, most PUG BRDs can kill the wall before the bees even spawn (without even using a LB obviously).

    Any fights with adds where you need to switch targets, BRD is also going to pull ahead. They don't have to run back and forth between mobs. They just need to switch targets. Basically, 90% of the boss fights in the game favor BRD, not to mention trash mobs which you can engage as soon as the tank pulls (assuming they don't suck).
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    Lumina Saita
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 70
    If you're just talking about damage, I say they are pretty balance. It's not severe enough to take one or the other. If you can't dodge on melee, you can't dodge on range.
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    Trife Darkheart
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    OP is just another case of someone blaming their own inadequacies on the game instead of themselves. Too much of this in gaming nowadays.
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    Rivienne Bertouaint
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 36
    Monk's are by far the best DPS to work with once they have the class down. My favourite DPS class. Anyone who is dismissing them are missing the point. The entire job system is balance. You shouldn't be comparing melee to ranged, because they both serve a different group purpose. The best teams have both. All ranged just never works well, and all melee can work, but not well either. (Actually given the choice I would choose all melee, but it still dicey). Now I will say Archer is easy mode. I mean, super super easy mode. Whereas PGL has proved to be one of the hardest classes I have tried.
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    Naomi Fordragon
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    SMN...

    LOL!

    BLM > SMN

    BRD is pretty stupid awesome though, DRG and MNK are still awesome.
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    Misaki Satomi
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 8
    You mean... dragoon?
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    Artoph Warr
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SolviteSekai View Post
    Can someone explain to me why (other than our limit break) any group should take a MNK/DRG over a SMN/BRD.

    They do about the same (or more) damage, and have free movement to avoid AOE's better.

    What realistic reason is there to bring melee dps other than friends or drops?

    Why does SE hate Melee DPS?
    Bards need to play songs that will drop their damage by 20%... a MNK in our group IS the top DPS at the moment. Good players make a class good.
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