Dark Knight

[Bloodclaw]

SCH/SMN proved that two different Jobs can take the same skills from their base class and have them do different things. GLD could certainly be converted into DRK; SE will just have to change some of their skills in that same way.

Honestly I am sorry, but I think your fooling yourself. It will be hard pressed to see DRK little alone any non-tank come from that class.

[Devaking55]

SCH/SMN proved that two different Jobs can take the same skills from their base class and have them do different things. GLD could certainly be converted into DRK; SE will just have to change some of their skills in that same way.

you obviously didnt/dont understand.

this doesnt fit any kind of flavor or lore. many of the gladiators signature skills have a holy aesthetic to them.

[Exstal]

Flash - Warrior can use it, not holy affiliated
Circle of Scorn - can get a minor animation/skin alteration, change name to reflect DRK
Rage of Halone..

Let me tell you about Halone

Halone, mover of glaciers and goddess of war, is the guardian deity of Ishgard. She commands the element of Ice and is associated with the first moon of the Eorzean calendar. Halone is the daughter of Rhalgr, and a bitter rival of Nophica. She is most often depicted as a relentless warrioress armed with a bronze greatshield. Her symbol is the three spears.

That aside, there are 3 ways Dark Knight could go;

- GLA DPS job (more likely)
- LNC tank job (unlikely)
- New class altogether (least likely)

People who say DRK needs to be 2H/scythe weapon users fail to realize what type of Summoner FFXIV's incarnation was pulled from. There is no restriction on what model SE will pull from and I've stated earlier in this thread that Scythe was easily the dumbest weapon choice.

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I don't see why you're so outright discarding the idea that it could be MRD based. Marauder thematics line up pretty well with DRK thematics. Sure, the weapon is wrong but as you pointed out that's not a dealmaker here.

Dark Knight using axes is a lot weirder than them using Sword / Shield. Probably just as weird as them using scythes. I would actually prefer Berserker to be Marauder's DPS job since axes and "Berserk" line up far better than Dark Knight would. That being said, I believe most of Dark Knight's blood moves would come straight from the job rather than the class.

[Bloodclaw]

Flash - Warrior can use it, not holy affiliated

Not holy and warriors are a tank job, not DPS, its a cross class skill, not a warrior skill so I am sorry to see your point?

Circle of Scorn - can get a minor animation/skin alteration, change name to reflect DRK

They never would change the name depending on the job.

Rage of Halone..

I fail to see your point with this one?

[Bloodclaw]

Are these trolls, or just a bunch of FFIV fans?

[Exstal]

They never would change the name depending on the job.

I fail to see your point with this one?

How would flash, rage of halone, and circle of scorn work as base skills for a dark knight? Holy attributed skills belonging to a user of darkness? Blasphemy

It's not my words.

In fact, not a single gladiator skill has a holy aesthetic to it.

[Bloodclaw]

It's not my words.

In fact, not a single gladiator skill has a holy aesthetic to it.

You are correct, however I will hold my stance on the fact that shield use was never really their favored proficiency. There were a few simple games here and there where they could use them, but it was never their focus. Too many of the GLA abilities speak to tank, and I just don't see DRKs as tanks. The first DRK in FF-III used primarily two handed weapons.

[Maero]

Yeah i would try Dark Knight as well if they implement Ninja and Red Mage
Wish to have more info from SE

[Donjo]

Honestly I am sorry, but I think your fooling yourself. It will be hard pressed to see DRK little alone any non-tank come from that class.

Once again, SCH/SMN proves this wrong. Theoretically, any class can branch off to a job outside of the class' role. This has already happened once! Therefore, it is completely possible for a Dark Knight to branch off of Gladiator. In fact, Yoshi-P seems to have this habit of mentioning that Dark Knight could branch off of Gladiator every time he mentions the Job(although he has never confirmed that this is the way it will actually happen).

In the interview linked here is one such example of Yoshi-P doing this: http://www.secrets-eorzea.com/en/new...rets-of-eorzea

Yoshida: I see what you mean. We created the system, but we do not necessarily need to follow it all the time. For example, let’s say that the Dark Knight is the second Gladiator job (attention, it is still not a confirmation), when you get its job stone at level 30, all acquired Gladiator skills will certainly be modified to better fit the image of the Dark Knight.

It was just to give an example to explain that we are not going to destroy how players consider different classes / jobs. It could be an interesting way to introduce future classes / jobs. We will consider your concerns on this issue, rest assured.
This should make things more interesting, don't you think?

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So, this shows that the team is probably at least weighing it as an option. Oh, and they wouldn't be afraid to change nearly all of GLD's skills to accommodate this!

[Ramath]

First off, just because Ninja was shoe-horned into a tank by the players in FFXI, does not mean that Ninja was ever meant to be a tank, in FFXI or any other game. It's always meant to be a stealthier DPS class in past FF games.

Second, just because DRK was a straight DD in FFXI, doesn't mean there isn't possibilities for it be play as a tank in FFXIV. In fact, Dark Knight was one of your best tank classes in FFIV.

Third, past FF games will always be conceptual for future FF games. Red Mage has changed drastically over the various FF games. Don't assume classes can't/won't change from game to game.