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    Dark Knight

    I was wondering who here is waiting for the DRK. It was literately MY class in FFXI, and was more than a little surprised that it wasn't in the launch release with the paladin as a balancing force.

    So who are the dark knights in hiding around us waiting?

    P.S. I am hearing the occasional person saying "DRK is going to be a tank." and I have to say this is not true in the slightest. Please look at the history of the Dark Knight before jumping to such a conclusion.

    P.P.S. Since people still have this wierd conclusion that a dark knight should be a tank by previous examplease I will now go in to each listed example in the wiki and support or disprove my statement (as I am trying to be UN-bias) as the DRK being a damage dealer (DPS) in concpet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF-wiki
    The Dark Knight is characterized by wearing tight, sometimes enclosed black armor and wielding a sword steeped in wicked powers. Their physical stats, with exception of Defense, are usually high, but their other stats depend on the game they appear in. The typical Dark Knight ability is Souleater, also known as Darkness, which allows them to sacrifice their HP to perform stronger attacks.

    However, Souleater is not exclusive to the Dark Knight class. Dark Knights may also have abilities based on Blood Equipment that allows them to absorb HP and MP from enemies. The Dark Knight is opposed by the Paladin, holy knights who protect allies and wield sacred powers. Unlike many classes, Dark Knights bear a signature weapon, the Deathbringer, which has a chance to kill certain enemies in a single blow.
    Quote Originally Posted by FF-wiki "Final Fantasy II- Aka Leon"
    He has high Strength and is proficient to some degree with all weapon types. His initial equipment is a Flame Sword and a Poison Axe as weapons, and a set of diamond equipment for armor. Leon's ultimate weapon in the Arcane Labyrinth is the Longinus, making spears the weapon to focus him in if the player wishes to use it well.

    Proficiencies
    Category Level
    Unarmed 2
    Knives 5
    Swords 8
    Staffs 6
    Axes 9
    Spears 7
    Bows 4
    Shields 3
    Point to two damage dealing 2nd lowest proficiency is shields and highest are two handed weapons.

    Quote Originally Posted by FF-wiki "Final Fantasy III"
    “Dark Knights are warriors of the dark blade. Their Soul Eater ability allows them to convert their life into extra damage.”
    Special Ability - Souleater

    The Dark Knight sacrifices 20% its current HP to attack all enemies, which can be useful for defeating enemies who multiply. Its damage is calculated using the following formula:
    2 points the class focuses on damage. 1 point to not, class was also called Magic Knight and could cast white magic spells in some incarnations of the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by FF-wiki "Final Fantasy IV"
    As a Dark Knight Cecil can only equip special swords, shields, and armor designed specifically for Dark Knights. His weapons are ineffective against Zombies, Ghouls, Revenants, and Skulnants. His most powerful Dark Sword, the Deathbringer, can inflict instant death on his opponents.
    FF4PSP Weapon Ragnarok

    As a Paladin Cecil can equip swords, staves, bows and arrows, knives, and axes. Cecil can equip most shields, hats, helmets, armor, tunics, rings, and gloves, not to mention his original ultimate weapon, the Ragnarok, and, if he proves himself worthy in his Lunar Trial, he can obtain the almighty Lightbringer.
    1 point the DRK class differs primerially on that while a DRK Cecil can kill an opponent instantly. This was not noted about the PLD role. However his apperent more useful and epic equipment was while a PLD, which is more of a plot point that a proper gauge of the nature of the class.

    Quote Originally Posted by FF-wiki "Final Fantasy IV The After Years"
    Final Tale, Part One: True Moon Edit
    New Moon Chapter

    Released in Japan on November 19, 2008
    Released in North America on September 7th, 2009
    Released in Europe on September 11th, 2009.

    The Lunar Whale is parked outside of the Subterrane of the True Moon. Cecil has lost himself and can barely talk or recognize the world around him. In the crater dungeon the eight Crystals are scattered about and each Crystal contains a boss fight. At the end Cecil and Golbez fight Dark Knight Cecil, who uses a special attack to bring everyone to near-fatal status. He tries to kill each party member one by one but Cecil blocks each hit. When the Dark Knight attacks Cecil, Golbez guards him from the attack, taking a mortal blow. However, if the player has Golbez, Ceodore, Cecil, and Rosa in the party when they encounter the Dark Knight, Golbez will survive. Cecil regains his lost strength and White Magic and claims the Excalibur. After the battle, Cecil thanks Golbez and the party, and heads to a warp tile.
    1 Point Dark Knight as a damage dealer as the straight up thing the DRK did was drop them to near death. It did not make it self some sort of weird evil tank. If it was supposed to be a tank, I would have made it so that it drained as much health as it was dealt by any means. The only way to kill it would be to cast cure spells at it (Just my thought).

    Quote Originally Posted by FF Wiki X-2
    Dark Knight has great HP, Strength and Defense, and also has fair Magic and Magic Defense, but has low Agility. Dark Knights have abilities such as Poison and Break. They also have attacks which drain the user's HP in order to cause damage, similar to the Darkside attack from previous games; and Black Sky, a powerful multi-hit attack. It is also notable that the Dark Knight has more status-proof abilities than any other dressphere. Dark Knight is found in the Bevelle Underground by choosing the right lifts and activating the blocks correctly.
    2 Point Tank. The class can not move as well as others, but has a tone of defensive abilities and can drain others hitpoints to replenish its own among other things. I gave it an additional point for setting a president.

    Quote Originally Posted by FF Wiki XI
    Dark Knights excel at heavy physical damage, although by no means the best in the game at this, when combined with debilitating magical attacks to hamper and weaken an enemy, Dark Knights make formidable damage dealers within a party. Though they can wear heavy armor, Dark Knights are generally quick to die if attacked while utilizing Job Abilities such as Last Resort or Soul Eater which sacrifices defense for a greater boost to attack....

    Zeid grants the player the Greatsword Chaosbringer with which he must slay 100 creatures. It is only after performing this time consuming quest that a character earns the right to play as a Dark Knight, and after killing 100 more enemies they can obtain the Greatsword Deathbringer.

    In Final Fantasy XI, Dark Knights hold the best weapon rating in Scythe, are excellent wielders of Great Swords and formidable users of Great Axes and single-handed axes and swords.
    3/4 Points to damage dealer DRK. 1 point to tank

    Quote Originally Posted by FF Wiki Tactics/WOL
    The Dark Knight (暗黒騎士, Ankoku Kishi?) is a job class in Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions. It has abilities that focus on hurting opponents while sacrificing their own HP. It costs 6,900 JP to master. To get the Fell Swords, the player must play the Multiplayer mode....

    Weapons: Swords, Fell Swords, Axe, Knight Swords, Flails
    Armor: Armor, Robes, Clothes
    Equip Shields? Yes....

    Base Attack: High
    Base HP: Low
    ...

    Abilities
    Sanguine Sword: Absorb HP from the target.
    Infernal Strike: Absorb MP from the target.
    Crushing Blow: Inflict damage with a sinister sword.
    Abyssal Blade: Sacrifice own HP to deal damage to others, with the nearest units suffering the most damage.
    Unholy Sacrifice: Sacrifice own HP to deal extensive damage to all units in range.

    4 Points to DPS, 1 point to As a tank total. Lots of small points toward tank here however the actual class description and class focus due to attack rate and base HP should be an obvious point to role with things like shields and armor being clearly esthetic choice, and not role specific in this game which could also be countered equally by the weapon selection. I gave the point to the NPC classes version of this class is more of a tank, however we are not looking at a NPC use of the class here.

    At this point I think the only people I see who think the DRK should be a tank are those who: loved X-2, used the exploit nitch in XI to make the DRK tank, IV fans that think Cecil was tough (Sure he was tough, he was the main character, and had to survive on his own at times; however DRK's side was damage dealing focused), and trolls. Another group would be damage dealers who don't want more competition for DF ques.
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    Right here, getting my Darklight gear for Pld/War and then just biding my time until Drk is added.
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    another one of these...why just not post to the one already made
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiz View Post
    another one of these...why just not post to the one already made
    Really? Like where. I did try to do a search using the system and google and no luck. Could you provide a URL please to back up your claim, because I am MORE than glad to do JUST that.
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    Anyway; I am doing Murader before I start doing Dragoon and then Black Mage in an attempt to pre-empt the probably requirements for the DRK assuming they don't include some entirely new class as the primary.
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    I want a dark knight starting class then at lvl 30 has the job of a death knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollow_Tears View Post
    I want a dark knight starting class then at lvl 30 has the job of a death knight.
    That might be interesting. However I don't think they are going to do that. However Hell Knight might be a possibility instead of death knight from the FFT port to PSP.
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    I'm waiting on Dark Knight. Wonder how long we will wait
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    Never played ffXI but normally the darker Knights have a bit more flavor than the light ones so Might try them out as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalldore View Post
    Never played ffXI but normally the darker Knights have a bit more flavor than the light ones so Might try them out as well.
    Welcome to the fold brother! XD
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