Let's Talk : GRAPHICS

[Ryios]

Yeah I believe in segregation for the win. You don't see Toyota Corolla's in a NASCAR race do you? I'm sure you don't see donkeys on the track at the Kentucky derby either. What SE has done with this game on PC and PS3 is equivalent to forcing NASCAR to randomly run their races with racers that are driving anything from a Ferrari to a moped. And because of the Duty Finder they don't know what kind of racer their going to get. And what's more these mopeds are invisible, they don't know they have one till their into lap 1.

Now I know some people can play on ps3 just fine. Our MT plays on PS3 and does a pretty good job of it. The problem I have with people on ps3 is anytime someone is royally screwing up repeatedly to the same thing over and over again, the first thing I see them type in chat is "Sorry I'm on PS3", it makes me want to rage kick them instantly and rep them. If PS3 is fine, stop blaming your fails on it. Saying it's causing your problems doesn't make me feel any better about it, it causes me to build bias towards the platform over time until eventually I'll leave my FC and form an All PC FC where I'll make people run a tool to give me their DXDiag's to join the FC.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying PC is perfect. Plenty of people are playing this game on toasters with 20 fps failing to get out of plumes on Titan HM. I even had a guy the other night tell me he plays with the arrow keys to move his character, his spells are bound to number pad, and he uses his mouse to move the camera. So when the dude needs to move he was to move his right hand off numpad to his mouse and move with the arrow keys. And doing so he says he can't always use his abilities before they are off the GCD.... When things got rough he would move without adjusting his camera, and as such walked off the titan platform a couple times....

Imo, people who play with WASD, and bind their abilities to shift 1-5, ctrl 1-5, alt 1-5, shift q, shit e, shift d, etc and keep their right hand on their mouse to move and never move their hands from their abilitiy to move or execute attacks with keybinds will always out perform most other setups. With 1 hand I can use every ability I have, and I can target anyone in my group with f keys and tab. As a tank I even have q and e set to cycle enimity targets so I can move through the enimity window targets with q,e since I use the mouse I can hold right click and straff with A D.

So I know PS3 is a viable platform, it just seems to me that more PS3 players play inefficiently on PS3 than they pc users. Also the shear fact that FFXIV is one of 2 cross platform mmo's ever made means more First Time MMO players are on PS3 than PC.

As such I think it would be a lot more fair to both sides if they were on their own servers.

[Kosmos992k]

Yeah I believe in segregation for the win. **snip to remove Elitist PC player BS**
...eventually I'll leave my FC and form an All PC FC..

Whatever, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you....

Edit: (stupid forum posting restrictions, now we have subs in place, can we PLEASe lift these asinine restrictions on posting?)

Don't let the door hit me what? First off I'm not religious, second off I'm not leaving.

It's an expression and more polite than saying don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

If you're so hot on respect, then where does your respect stand when you desire to segregate players by platform and discriminate against players based on their DXDiag output?

I don't like playing with PS3 players, but only because their communication sucks (not their fault).

Well, PS3 supports this weird device called a keyboard, sadly though not everyone uses it, then again, I have heard that many PC players use controllers and are not touch typists either. Discrimination/segregation based on platform is a mightily epic failure in my opinion, and those who subscribe to it are pretty weak minded. Someone was complaining that controller users were too slow, then it was pointed out that in the time of a GCD, a controller user can click numerous buttons long before their GCD is up and they need to select an action. In a game with a 2.5 second base GCD, the speed advantage claimed by mouse/keyboard players is a fallacy, as is the proposition that the PS3 gimped the graphics of the game. the game engine was built for DX9 PCs on lower power hardware to maximize the audience.

[Huginn]

In XI, i waited and waited for an expansion that would be like the EverQuest expansion "Shadows of Luclin." Where you would be able to enable/disable higher graphics, it never came. I would really like to see it in XIV. We could have PS3/PS4 graphics and then have "high end PC" graphics.

[Ryios]

Don't let the door hit me what? First off I'm not religious, second off I'm not leaving. I like this game, problems or not, and Have been playing SE MMO's Since the launch of FFXI. I'll just deal with it. And it will be better once the PS4 comes out and the dx 11 client.

I have opinions, if you don't like them, that is ok, because they are opinions and I respect that. So respect it back if I don't like your opinions.

[MadMacallan]

I don't like playing with PS3 players, but only because their communication sucks (not their fault). Back to the point, I like the graphics. I think they're solid. It's really the art direction / variety in environments I have a problem with. Oh, that and the Bard's armor. I couldn't look more effeminate if my bow shot Sex and the City DVDs and the only food my character could consume were dick-shaped gummies.

[Sixmp]

Dear PC people who wish to separate the community. It wouldn't be just PS3 on their own servers
What about people who run on settings about the same on PC? Then what?
What about when PS4 shows up? Split the community up based on the PS4 specs including people on PC with specs that match the PS4s?

Remember people on PC with specs like the PS3 or PS4 will be running the game worse than the consoles due to OS and other programs running at the same time.

It's quite funny how people who are obviously so antisocial play a game that rests on people being social .

I can understand that for many PS3 players this will be their first MMO. Help them. I'm sure you were all instantly epic at your first MMO.