Elitism and How It Is Ruining The Gaming Community [Discussion, Feedback, and Rants]

[Melisenna]

It's up to the person setting up a run to determine what their requirements will be to join THEIR group. Their group = not your group. If somebody wants people to have full darklite and relic+1 to go run castrum, then so be it. They don't care that it can be done half naked with their bare hands as weapons, because they're going for speed and efficiency, not for the funsies of it.

Don't meet their requirements? Too bad. Nobody is making you join it.

[Eclair_Xysha]

I have a question. What the hell do you need a photo ID for?

[Reiterpallasch]

I have a question. What the hell do you need a photo ID for?

I actually require my party members to send me a copy of their drivers license for praetorium. If they don't, then they need to walk through the section where you'd normally be riding the magitech. Lore aside, I don't want to get banned for not doing the dungeon "properly", and allowing unlicensed people to take control of heavy machinery is surely something some people around here would report me for.

[Eclair_Xysha]

I actually require my party members to send me a copy of their drivers license for praetorium. If they don't, then they need to walk through the section where you'd normally be riding the magitech. Lore aside, I don't want to get banned for not doing the dungeon "properly", and allowing unlicensed people to take control of heavy machinery is surely something some people around here would report me for.

You're kidding right....? I never heard of this before for any MMO and/or game. I'm currently actually stuck at Praetorium because DF just seriously takes too long to que up.
Can you (or someone) enlighten me as to why?

[TheMoonflow]

Around 90% of the people I've met and the pugs I've had so far have been great, and I've nearly got full dl and half way through relic quest.
The few bad pugs I've had have just been bad because they are under geared or inexperienced and normally just give up after realizing that fact without complaining or whining

I see those "elitists" in shout asking for a full dl relic+1 team for cm, yea.
But I also see shouts for full story mode with cut scenes.
Perhaps less frequently than the former but it's to be expected when you consider the amount of times people have to run it to gear up.

You shouldn't pay too much attention to what you hear on forums and judge by your own experiences, while keeping in mind that people often respond to how you act, and will pick up on a positive attitude.

[AridElf]

I stopped reading at AK and WP requiring darklight. Not even CM and Praetorium require it.

[Ayiana_Arch]

I stopped reading at AK and WP requiring darklight. Not even CM and Praetorium require it.

Like I said before in another post, that was what people told me. I needed at least two or three DL pieces before I could take on WP and AK and have a chance of survival, along with either the GC weapon or the Ifrit weapon. It might be different for every server. Who knows. But this is my experience from the server I'm currently playing on.

[SchalaZeal]

Like I said before in another post, that was what people told me. I needed at least two or three DL pieces before I could take on WP and AK and have a chance of survival, along with either the GC weapon or the Ifrit weapon. It might be different for every server. Who knows. But this is my experience from the server I'm currently playing on.

WP is easy without any DL, in full AF and with some under-40 accessories.
Tried AK with that gear today. Wiped 10 times vs Wall. Wiped 4 times vs Psychflayer (in the same 120 minute block). Didn't even come close to wipe in WP, and did it 2 more times just for tomes.

While it's doable in full AF, it takes a lot of game experience and fast reflexes...and ease with movement (movement is not my strength, the timing and strategy and management is - I hardly ever run out of MP except when people die and the tank needs constant spam-heals - and I'm hardly ever 'not doing anything'). So AK plays to the strength of some, not to mine, and probably many others. And I need a margin. DL provides it.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

SE is already planning on gear score for Duty finder, this should help prevent people from being abused because they entered content that they were undergeared for. If people continue to be verbally abused by speedrunners after MVP rating is patched in, I can only imagine that their next move is to somehow stop it from being possible [like the dark devices nerf], or make it inefficient to speedrun because merely expecting people to be civil to others is apparently out of the question.

This is why we can't have nice things..

[Teraluna]

I don't see the "Elitism" here as any different from other games. Hey I recall the "you will be inspected, must have gear score, will be questioned on tactics ..etc etc" from my Wow days. From what I've seen (commonly at Revenant's Toll), it's the same gushings.

But, I do think the current game content exacerbates this.