Elitism and How It Is Ruining The Gaming Community [Discussion, Feedback, and Rants]

[Sublimeprince]

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[rswfire]

They won't last.

People with these kinds of attitudes have short attention spans. That's why they speed run and try to insist you skip cutscenes.* They will eventually get bored and those of us with some actual human DNA will remain.

* They can say whatever they want. I worked hard to get to L50 and when I did the last two quests, I refused to let them rush me. I watched all of them while they ran off without me, and I finished them just as they were finishing the last battle. They said I was leeching, despite me starting off with a message to the party, "I worked hard to get here, doing quests, leves, and dungeons. I did not take the easy route and do FATEs. Please be patient and allow me to watch the cutscenes." One person responded: "skippy skip."

[Jynxii]

your delusional this game has brought out the worst in the MMO community...

Yeah, because every other MMO followed WoW's more casual mode approach, and when the players groomed by this approach hit FFXIV end game (arguably not the hardest), they cried out not because of the content itself, but because they couldn't easily do it like they could in every other MMO; Of course people that could do it were going to come out and say it was doable, and instead of reasonable discussion, BOTH sides started slinging mud. Obviously an incredibly generalized and blanket statement, but I digress; There are douchebags and unreasonable players in BOTH groups.

Also, it has gotten to 'that point' in the game where a portion of players are geared to the teeth in full DL and Relic+1, and as such want to run with other people in the same set up so it is more efficient; hell, you still have to do it 8 times(?) per week to cap mytho, and some players have done it for 4+ weeks already now. Whether it is fair for players to push these 'requirements' onto other players is a completely different matter, however as they are forming the group, it is their prerogative (If this was DF this clearly doesn't apply, but if people are using DF they really shouldn't be complaining about gear status anyway). Also, for the record, it was still more efficient (pre-patch at least) to spam CM speed runs for Philo stones to get DL, so 'advising' players to do that first isn't necessarily a bad/elitist thing.

[CruciasNZ]

While there are some absolute derps making life unpleasant by demanding you snap to attention after doing a backflip and killing daemon wall with a toothbrush, there are also groups who did the fail fail fail grind already and just want to gear. You'll join them eventually, might take two runs, might take fifty.

From the perspective of an AK veteran, I cannot wait for gear check limits to stop people going in with the Artifact (45 story armour) and equivalent weapons. WP is a totally different beast, that's the intermediate step where you gear for AK.

I refuse to take people without decent gear on AK farming runs because we want experience, competency and speed. However I also routinely take in new people in order to teach them - everyone has to start somewhere and learn. Sorry your experience has been tainted

[Ayiana_Arch]

]I refuse to take people without decent gear on AK farming runs because we want experience, competency and speed. However I also routinely take in new people in order to teach them - everyone has to start somewhere and learn. Sorry your experience has been tainted

It's all good. I'm glad to see there are still people in this community that take new people in. It's people like you that give me hope that we can turn this community around.

[Ksenia]

Go troll the EVE Online forums for an hour if you want elitism.

Most people playing that and this though think it's all foolishness. Most people just play their damn game and log out.

[Kiroh]

The problem here is that the elitists of FFXIV have no idea just how ignorant and unskilled they really are compared to those that play EvE! I'm far more irritated by elitists in FF than I am Eve, because in FF, everything is handed to them on a silver platter. They haven't the slightest clue what it means to actually work hard for something or use their intellect. They have zero patience and they're intolerant. Even the worst that Eve has to offer is better than what the elitists here think they have to offer.

So if everything is handed to you on a silver platter, why don't you have everything? =o

And for that matter, if everything is sooo easy, why is it unreasonable or elitist to ask for these things in a party? If it takes you so little time and effort, then why are you so lazy that you can't equip yourself properly instead of whining about it on the forums?

[Kiroh]

I've no interest in educating you. Sorry if my comments offend you, but it's my reasonable opinion based on a plethora of factors. I will leave it at that in the interests of civility (meaning this conversation has nowhere to go but down.)

"This game is so easy and endgame is handed to you."
"I don't have endgame gear people require, but you're too stupid and pleeb to understand why so I'll just blame other people and whine."

Solid reasoning there buddy.