I actually played WoW (upto end of cataclysm) & GW2... Maybe I was fortunate but I didnt encounter the lvl of immaturity that I find in ARR. Ver.1 players were nicer overall aswell. Then again there was no DF, your reputation actually meant something. Perhaps DF's design is to blame, esp with no way to boot a player. You can AFK farm repeatedly while others play -1 player, or eat 15min time if you decide to leave before they do. FFXI and Ver.1 reputation meant something... It got you either invited 1st or a last resort invite. If DF allows a way to mutually agree on kicking someone I think it will put some sense of being respectful back into the game. I was doing DF with JP grp and this english player (BRD with ilvl55 bow) after 1st wipe... "you guys suck!" .."Don't suck next time." Then on 3rd wipe he proceeded to use the auto translate to tell party to disband while he /sit. Why? because he didn't want to eat the 15min timer. 1 of the jp players said he should have left 1st.. That was just such a level of disrespect. The only good side was I was the only 1 who understood english. Can you blame the "JP only" mentality? Online worlds need consequences otherwise ppl will do as they please with the general users.