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    Eclair_Xysha's Avatar
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    Eclair Xysha
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    Japanese culture is different... they are taught to be humble people which is why everyone likes playing with jp most of the time. It's not really a new age group thing? I mean with the generation today, it's the "I want this now" generation with no patience and they refuse to give tips and guides and rather have you do it yourself and Google.... but I don't really see that with jp players so it's gatta be a culture thing? Idk. I'm a nice person until a butt scraper starts crap and I'm not the type to leave until everyone leaves. I help people but it's your choice if you wanna take the help or not. Some people listen some don't. It's what ever. Just a game.

    I came and bought this game to get away from fps stress but not so sure which is worse anymore.
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    Last edited by Eclair_Xysha; 10-16-2013 at 01:14 AM.

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    @ Eclair_Xysha: To be honest, I think a lot of the western rudeness stems from mainly Americans, not so much Europeans (which I am American, before anyone gets all upset). We seem to have an obsession with freedom to the point of it hurting us. Kids are no longer punished, but instead coddled for the most part, not given proper discipline and aren't taught well enough in school, which leads to improper behavior. I mean hell, I'm only 22 and I noticed these issues going through school myself. I'm thankful every day for being brought up right, and having parents that taught me well. Such a great country, cutting school funding yet again, and teachers pay. Gotta build them bombs, terrorists are everywhere! /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insomnius View Post
    @ Eclair_Xysha: To be honest, I think a lot of the western rudeness stems from mainly Americans, not so much Europeans (which I am American, before anyone gets all upset). We seem to have an obsession with freedom to the point of it hurting us. Kids are no longer punished, but instead coddled for the most part, not given proper discipline and aren't taught well enough in school, which leads to improper behavior. I mean hell, I'm only 22 and I noticed these issues going through school myself. I'm thankful every day for being brought up right, and having parents that taught me well. Such a great country, cutting school funding yet again, and teachers pay. Gotta build them bombs, terrorists are everywhere! /sarcasm
    Muuurrrrikah. It's difficult to even leave. I might as well sit back and watch us all fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insomnius View Post
    @ Eclair_Xysha: To be honest, I think a lot of the western rudeness stems from mainly Americans, not so much Europeans (which I am American, before anyone gets all upset).
    Please do not generalize. I have spent much of my adult life traveling the world; China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Turkey, and Canada. I find that people are people no matter where you go. You are as likely to run into a rude European or Aussie as you are a rude American. Asian cultures are a bit different on the surface, but as I said people are people. While cultures are different; I find people that would generalize in such a fashion have not spent a extended time immersed in foreign cultures. I spent weeks or months in these places (I recommend them all), and I think if you did you would see we are more similar than we are different. That includes propensity towards rudeness.
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    On the rude players, we all just really need to not let them get to us. If you notice yourself getting upset, take a minute and just breathe. Do you really want to ruin part of your day being upset at some random guy? Just smile, and either leave or ignore them. I know the timers and having to wait again is a little annoying, but you just can't help it sometimes. For me, I like turning the profanity filter on because it makes any cussing someone starts to spew out comical, but maybe that's just me. Same thing with comedians, the bleeping out of the cussing makes it funnier to me, don't know why :P

    Anyways! Just be happy, gaming is a hobby for people to enjoy, listen to some upbeat music (which might be hard because the games soundtrack is just amazing) and smile. Holding on to anger or irritation just makes your life outside the game worse as well.
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    The internet used to be so different back when the Original MMOs came out because the population consisted of mostly adults. Ever since people started using the internet to babysit their children, it has turned into a cesspool. Not to say there aren't adults that act that way. Now everything is now now now instant gratification or whawhawha this game is broken.
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    So why is latency even an issue in FFXIV? Only when people started to do titan they discovered latency issues? No it's because that's when latency issues actually counted heavily. Prior to titan latency issues got you hit with abilities, in few cases killed. Adding 2.5 GCD when "modeling" other games which mostly have <2sec GCD skills (WoW, GW2, etc.) is one way to be unique and provide a slower pace to the game - a uniqueness. But then why ADD low server-side refresh rates and hidden internal casts to 'instant" skills. Not to overload the servers you say, but what about the countless other games that do NOT have this issue? this has been beaten to death in other threads. So the new solution is Memorization > Skill. lt's create a "workaround" for poor design and then tell those who don't feel they should work around a poor design, "noobs" or "L2P".. Memorization > Skill. Also cutscenes in dungeons.. goes back to ver.1 as an issue. 2.5 sec will be felt in pvp - this isn't a pvp game.. thanks.. so explain to me why we're getting pvp when we can't even hit moving targets consistenly if you're melee? Our tab-target function is dysfunctional.. basic stuff.. You can't save the preference to show online LS members at top.. you have to click it every time?? Relic are losing their "wow," DL it's prestige.. I mean, what's really going on here? no ESC function to clear typing.. no kick for DF, cant add to primals if someone leaves.. there's other basics. It's a matter of why add so much limitation and then load everything server side. I played ver 1.0 and doing ARR, just want to have a game to play, lately online-games are dissapointing and technology is only advancing.. it doesnt make sense.
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    the GCD is a non issue, and the cast animations are a non issue, learn your class, and/or ask for tips, and stop your porn downloads to fix lag. If ppl are dying because you had to move and were GCD'd, heal them earlier or let them know "hey, you know if you stand in that brown circle there, you take alot of damage, so pls dodge it"

    And if "memorization > skill" in this game is the game, imagine how many ppl would bitch if SE set phase 5 to a random rotation if ppl can not master memorizing things.

    but its sounding like, mujen, maybe this isnt the game for you, there are others out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujen View Post
    2.5 sec will be felt in pvp
    Good lord that was a difficult read, but I did spot it!

    For the love of god can you explain this perceived problem with the current GCD? You ignored my previous post... so much for being helpful and willing to explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Good lord that was a difficult read, but I did spot it!

    For the love of god can you explain this perceived problem with the current GCD? You ignored my previous post... so much for being helpful and willing to explain.
    The problem is they have added both this 2.5 sec GCD along with poor server positional updates.. If ARR was modeled after current top games such as WoW & GW2.. why not have a smooth game and keep the 2.5sec GCD. Why both? ALSO... make skill speed/spell speed worthwhile for classes other than MNK. We're not even going to debate about it's 0.001 effect on GCD and approx 0.006 effect on cast time that's simple math. It's a compounding effect, i'm not singling out GCD alone, but when added to other things, yes it's annoying.. why this longer GCD ontop of latency, skills not firing and positions not refreshing.. it just funnels the problems towards frustration rather than challenging enjoyment. It becomes mercy of the game mechanics rather than obvious player skill. All this crap about memorizing fights is poor design, people do not like to spend lot of time to research fights. Why do you think tanking isn't the most sought role in games? Because you have to understand the fights. DPS is less responsibility & less blame, you can learn the fight easier.

    There is no item linkage, no item preview, why do we still have retainers? They do absolutely nothing besides storage, in fact they are more of a hindrance because in order to sell items you have to check the AH for prices and then walk over to your retainer and either remember the pricing or write it down.. More items would be sold if you could goto the AH, lookup prices, even link the item to the search bar for convenience and sell it right then and there. I hardly sell because of this inconvenience. You also have to target the summoning bell amidst a crowd (why do i have to search to hit F12?). Why do we constantly have to click "show online players top" for LS preference? Why can't we see numbers for cooldowns on skills as an option for UI? Sometimes it's hard to see if something is almost off CD depending the skill's color. If the latency issue regarding refreshing positioning was corrected I guarantee we'd see a better success rate for titan HM. It's 2013, we're modeling older games that have already illustrated what's possible and what should/shouldn't be implemented.. why don't we build upon that? If people keep defending/accepting crap, that's what you'll set as acceptable... Why should a company strive to do better if the expectations are low? SE is notorious for letting players struggle to understand their game concepts (both FFXIV & FFXI). How about adding % to the hover tooltip for stats... what does 520 crit rate mean exactly? what does 50 spell speed mean? (heck make spell speed worth it also). Why do adds have to rape healers for regen effects when they are fresh spawns? This is clear for Garuda HM when her adds spawn. It's just a long list of things that add up.. it's not "hey 2.5 sec GCD is the issue with the game" it's an accumulation & unless you can step back and look at the overall picture, instead of analyzing 1 aspect, you're missing the picture completely.
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