DD Nerfed

[Bluezero]

Dungeons drop gear, which is also part of the game. Unless players are just looking to be carried. I guess that's not 'their fault' either?

I'm glad we agree. Leveling up your 2nd or 3rd character to cap, you're not going to care about gear on the way up, you just want to get to cap. Which will now take longer with this nerf.

[Conradus]

No, they should buff hunting log, leve, and dungeon exp, not make leveling even more mind-numbingly boring. It takes over 150 dungeons or 480 leves to level 20 - > 50.

Try to tell me with a straight face that's ok.

That's five dungeons or sixteen leves per level. I don't see anything wrong with that.

[Ri_ri]

The heck they aren't. People aren't running dungeons (good source of gear.) People aren't doing story quests (good source of gear.)
They're just leveling through FATES because you can be one of the masses and get exp no matter what gear you have. Just follow the train and spam AoE damage. You end up at level 50 and have no idea how to play your class or the game really for that matter.

I'm failing to see your point. This is a matter of research, skill or guidance. Quests and dungeons won't teach you anything (much less that a level 49 sword is a horrible sin)
I can see you dislike FATEs, though.

[Ashren]

That's five dungeons or sixteen leves per level. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Except that at 480 leves it would take you approximately 2 months to level a single class from 20 to 50, this is in no way okay.

[Conradus]

Except that at 480 leves it would take you approximately 2 months to level a single class from 20 to 50, this is in no way okay.

That's assuming you gain XP through nothing but leves. But even so, I don't have a problem with that. There's plenty interesting to do on the way from 20 to 50. It should be as much about the journey as the destination.

[Zoeila]

this feels like a ftp mmo move to me.

[Zeille]

The only other zone with 40+ fates is Mor Dhona, and there there are only a couple above level 45.

Being kind of a stickler here, but there are level 40+ FATEs in Western La Noscea (the Sahagin area), Southern Thanalan (The Amalj'aa area), Outer La Noscea (The Kobold area), etc.

These areas are usually devoid of players though, so it'll be just you and maybe one other person if you're lucky. There is a nice chain of fates in the Sahagin area that people seem to always be around for.

[GoddessEtna]

This is very disappointing. Don't make a post saying you are completely fine with it then turn around and nerf it SE. Bad form.

[jdnyc]

This is very disappointing. Don't make a post saying you are completely fine with it then turn around and nerf it SE. Bad form.

Where did they say they were fine with it? I know they said they were fine with people doing FATE grinds, but that's different from the nerf here. I would say it brings the FATE more in line with other FATEs no?

[GoddessEtna]

Where did they say they were fine with it? I know they said they were fine with people doing FATE grinds, but that's different from the nerf here. I would say it brings the FATE more in line with other FATEs no?

There is a dev post (or whatever you want to call it) in the thread calling out people "exploiting" DD by farming the mobs. The dev said it was completely fine. Would find the quote but lunch is over.