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Thread: DD Nerfed

  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariArisu View Post
    LEVELING DOES NOT MAKE YOU GOOD AT YOUR JOB. You need to play a job at 50 to learn it. That is all. Modern MMOs that are not Korean Grindfest MMOs are all about endgame, leveling is just a small deterrent and should NOT take very long, especially in a game with multi-classing.
    Why are you playing an mmorpg again? It sounds as if you want SE to just hand out level 50s to all new characters made so they can just play end game because that's where they learn to play and apparently the only part of the game that matters. So yes SE ditch all low level zones and content, lets just let everyone start in Wineport at 50 and can immediately go in for BC. Laughable isn't it? But this is your view of mmorpgs in general apparently. But the leveling process to max level should teach players how to use their various skills for end game content.

    Honestly if you dislike leveling, you shouldn't be playing mmorpgs in general. Maybe games like CoD or LoL is more to your liking? Hmm~?

    Also all this easy grind to 50 through fates obviously is helping out players with beating end game content :P And yes I'm being sarcastic considering a lot of people lack the common knowledge of utilizing their class because they never had opportunities to use their class/Job beyond spamming their instant attacks as quickly as possible or spamming flash or heal in FATES.
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    Last edited by xXHalloweenTrixXx; 11-01-2013 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koehai View Post
    No, he's saying there was no intended change to it. Therefore the change that undeniably did happen is a fluke/bug.
    Or, the instant respawn was a bug that was accidentally/coincidentally fixed.
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    Um... go do the FATE for 5 min? Enemies aren't repopping. There isn't more to it than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Hotfix more like hot garbage.

    How about making the boosted reward for guildhests job specific? Or at least make them refresh once a week so they aren't something you just do once and then never again? No, that's not grindy enough. They clearly want us to grind more not less.
    Why not just boost the base reward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariArisu View Post
    LEVELING DOES NOT MAKE YOU GOOD AT YOUR JOB. You need to play a job at 50 to learn it. That is all. Modern MMOs that are not Korean Grindfest MMOs are all about endgame, leveling is just a small deterrent and should NOT take very long, especially in a game with multi-classing.
    Actually, you're absolutely wrong. Levelling does make you good at your job, or at least it provides a learning curve to ease you in to understanding endgame. And I mean ARR specifically here, the dungeons are set up perfectly to teach new players the mechanics they'll engage with at endgame and how the various classes work and interact with each other.

    As a tank, i can hold aggro perfectly at end game content, I understand the enmity system, I know how the other class types work together, and guess what? I knew these things before I even hit endgame as the game had gone out of its way to teach me.

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    I wouldn't get too excited about DD, perhaps he constant respawn was unintended and was fixed without them realising.
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    FINALLY i can lvl my bird again! please fix this bug.
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    So look.... people who are level 50 find it very annoying that you guys wanna just sit there
    for 15 minutes and hold up our seal grinding and stopping other fates from popping up.
    The funny thing is, the people who complain ab out DD killing lambs,
    usually are the first one to do quest turn ins on quests where you can farm exp.
    Lols...
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    I hope the Devs revert this. Seeing the rage flow when someone kills the lambs early is good for a laugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalw3 View Post
    Actually, you're absolutely wrong. Levelling does make you good at your job, or at least it provides a learning curve to ease you in to understanding endgame. And I mean ARR specifically here, the dungeons are set up perfectly to teach new players the mechanics they'll engage with at endgame and how the various classes work and interact with each other.
    I believe they were referring to how people just grind to 50 as fast as possible while skipping dungeons.

    The strategy for maximizing XP gains in a FATE are often completely the opposite to how to play your class efficiently in a dungeon or trial:

    - Healers get best returns by spamming AoE heals mindlessly
    - DPS get best returns by spamming AoE's and trying to tag mobs before anyone else
    - Tanks get best returns by using emnity generation skills, but not so much they draw aggro and take heavy damage.

    Thus simply getting to 50 is no indicator of actual ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyPr View Post
    it isnt slow enough , i started 2 weeks ago , i dont grind fates and almost at lvl 50 ...
    probably the fastest MMO to reach max lvl , which means tons of people unable to play their class ....

    fates should be something you unlock when you reach 50 with your first character , not something noobs could join
    Ahh, you think that level grinding teaches people how to play their class. That's just precious.
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