CM Changes

[Mark-JPS]

They are whining because they love hardcore and painful grinding. That's Japanese MMO for you. Japanese gamers loves grinding endless hours... You wonder why most hardcore gamers are always Japanese who always ends up in the leaderboard?

[Arkista]

About 5 mins more depending on the group could be longer. And I was lagging really bad at the last boss phase 2 but it seemed like she took longer to kill and I've done over 150 CM runs.

[xXHalloweenTrixXx]

Speed Runs actually began to encourage elitist behavior in groups. People would get cursed at if they aggro even -one- monster, as if its the end of the world to burn the add down in a few seconds.

[azura84]

Yea I have to say, when SE requires us to repeat these raids dozens of times over just to get 1 piece of DL/relic/AF2 at a time we end up finding ways to shorten how long it takes us to finish. It's simple logic, because be honest, do you go in and watch the cutscenes over and over? It's the same concept. Speed runs I think should even be an option in activating the duty, thus allowing us to skip all the tedious CSs automatically.

Anyone know about Prae drops?

[SnickleWhiskers]

maybe because it's almost like cheating? when you speedrun, most of the time you break the main purpose of the trash by skipping them. how can you feel content to have get your DL stuff like this?

You're implying people should take any kind of pride in having DL when it takes next to nothing in terms of skill to obtain.

[Orsnoire]

The irony of this thread:

People still want to do speedrun of CM when they now have the other options.

In other threads the constant plea was simply for another option. now it's there and there's still whining about speedrun of CM. Some people can never be pleased.

[Miiu]

Invis pot and silent oil says hi. It was common practice in FFXI to sneak past stuff. There you even could buy/craft items which made this easier.

[Nash774]

maybe because it's almost like cheating? when you speedrun, most of the time you break the main purpose of the trash by skipping them. how can you feel content to have get your DL stuff like this?

If you want to be all technical.. what is the best way to infiltrate an enemy base? Head on? Or sneaky?

I think being sneaky fits what you are doing. You are infiltrating an enemy base right?

[IzumiRaito]

Fixing "exploits" that encourage being toxic to players that dont know them or dont want to use them is a good thing to do for a healthier community.

Raging at players that dont know about, dont want or failed at skipping mobs in ak/cm.
Raging at players watching cutscenes (still not fixed).
Raging at players that didnt do no weakness rez bug.
Condemning players that were "completing the objective" in DD fate.

Even if such "exploit" itself may not be a bad thing, as soon as using it is being enforced at randomly-met players, it becomes a nightmare.

[Fiorana]

Fixing "exploits" that encourage being toxic to players that dont know them or dont want to use them is a good thing to do for a healthier community.

Raging at players that dont know about, dont want or failed at skipping mobs in ak/cm.
Raging at players watching cutscenes (still not fixed).
Raging at players that didnt do no weakness rez bug.
Condemning players that were "completing the objective" in DD fate.

Even if such "exploit" itself may not be a bad thing, as soon as using it is being enforced at randomly-met players, it becomes a nightmare.

^ pretty much what caused it.