Pro-tip of the day.

[Radacci]

Ok, so about these ridiculous ppl now-days, that demand relics +1, or whatnot, for CM runs etc...just stop it
I was in such a party yesterday, and it was the shittiest party i ever been in. Pretty much everyone seemed to make a mess, and overly complicate things, just to try to appear pro, or i don't know what; so instead of gaining 1min of clear time, it took 20 more.
So don't trust that a party of relics, is going to get stuff done, faster.
Remember that plenty of ppl get carried, or buy their wins.

Also, i was in another party, with not so many relics, and guess what...it went a lot smoother and faster.
Seems for a lot of ppl, relic is just an overcompensation, for lack of skill.
When i was getting relic for BLM, i was using DL staff (lv 55) and demagogue stuff; and party was like: dude, gear up, you're going to hold the party back. But i convinced them to take me along...and guess what,,,i had highest damage output.
When i was getting relic for bard yesterday, it was the same thing; i come waltzing in with Grand Company Bow/Armor, Toxotes gear, and out-dps ppl in relic +1/DL armors.
And again with my BRD, it took some convincing, to take me along; but party-leader said, he'll take a live DPS, over a dead DPS any day.

So the point is: a skilled and under-geared player, beats a crappy, over-geared player (most of the time)
So what you should do, is blacklist those stupid elitists, that shout for relics only; and do DF, or some random shout-group, cause they probably as good/better, than the elitist, who thinks he's good, cause of his relic.

[Scratchs]

One thing I'll say for relix they're usually the best at complaining, gear checking and jumping ship bar none.

[Zfz]

Nothing wrong with the have's wanting to only play with the have's.

I don't blacklist my neighbour just because he looks for people who also like to play card games and I don't have a deck. It's really just normal behavior. What's bad is the hordes of people who think that those are the minimum requirements and turn around preaching it.

[Scratchs]

Ops forgot finger pointing.

[Noahlimits]

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If you don't like people shouting for relic groups, simply don't join them/ignore them. I know all the relic parties I join usually take around 25-28 minutes for AK, and that's without using death/raise tactics.

[Monty]

How many Titan runs do you get a guy shouting for relics, gear, experience...and 10 mins later swearing in shout that they're all terrible.

[Tricksy]

I swear this conversation is the entire game. Rehashed over and over.

I just want to play with considerate people who like to have fun. I hope that is an option alongside "ilevel gear check" in the upcoming patch. >.>

Games should be fun, ... IMO

[Radacci]

Nothing wrong with the have's wanting to only play with the have's.

I don't blacklist my neighbour just because he looks for people who also like to play card games and I don't have a deck. It's really just normal behavior. What's bad is the hordes of people who think that those are the minimum requirements and turn around preaching it.

Oh i don't make a habit of Blist ppl; only those that have the minimum req of relic +1, for CM; or ignore you, if you point out you only have standard relic...or even Ifrit Wep, god forbid.
Or bullheaded ppl, that don't want to listen to advice, and end up wiping the party, cause of it.
Wipes in themselves, don't bother me that much; it's just the attitude of some ppl that cause them.

[Ryuni]

You're getting a little too trigger-happy on the comma key.

Besides, just because you joined a group that didn't go well doesn't mean all will be that bad. More often than not, if you join party with loads of newly 50s, it's probably going to take 10-15 mins longer.

[Anakhu]

I have not had the greatest experience in most of those groups either, some are actually pro.. but then some are like you mentioned, trying to appear pro and make a mess of things and want to over complicate things and then break down into finger pointing. I have lately been finding some awesome groups in DF lately , and think I will stay using that outside of FC parties. For instance, last week I got into an AK solo que and we cleared it in 28 min, not ever saying a word to each other really until the end ( which was a plus and a negative) No complaining, everyone knew thier job and what to do.. we just didn't talk much except the gj thanks for run bit at end, but still..