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  1. #21
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    Kirea's Avatar
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    Kelenae Sharan
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    Arcanist Lv 53
    It's funny today i was told i sucked because i refuse to get Darklight, even though in ak gear alone i was main healing Coil, The fact of the mater people think gear = skill, and with more idiots buying titan runs and relics than ever before...gear means absolutely nothing but people think otherwise....i don't see ARR lasting much longer due to these elitest's
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirea View Post
    It's funny today i was told i sucked because i refuse to get Darklight, even though in ak gear alone i was main healing Coil, The fact of the mater people think gear = skill, and with more idiots buying titan runs and relics than ever before...gear means absolutely nothing but people think otherwise....i don't see ARR lasting much longer due to these elitest's
    This just in. You can be properly geared and still be competent at your job!
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  3. #23
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    Blazn Pyro
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Problem is most these groups are the ones that buy titanHM clears and are not the best players to start with, and giving good gear to bad players increase their ability to screw things up.
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  4. #24
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    Kat_Manx's Avatar
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    Kat Fuzzington
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 73
    Nothing amuses me more than people demanding relic weapon and relic armor for CM runs.

    So, to join your party I need to:

    Do multiple CM runs to get Darklight gear so I can go to AK and do multiple AK runs to get relic armor AND do Chimera, Hydra, HM Ifrit, Garuda and Titan to get my relic weapon, after which I am finally allowed to join your party doing the first and easiest event in this whole "end game" chain of events.

    Okay. Sure. What?
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  5. #25
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    amnie's Avatar
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    Ava Adore
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 70
    why don't you folks just completely ignore people having silly gear requirements? make your own groups. know what you're getting yourself into. no, you don't have to put them on your ignore list or anything, but it does help (I'm putting people on ignore that shout for paid Titan kills for example)
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  6. #26
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    Vanyaeli Raegi
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Considering it's a level 50 story dungeon, people in the Duty Finder also whine a lot when I'm in my AF gear (because my AK gear looks silly and I refuse to buy the trashcan set). Hello people, welcome to a level 50 dungeon where ilvl45 and up is perfectly viable.

    Shout all you like for relic+1/full DL groups, but leave that rubbish attitude at the Commence Duty screen, DF is a lottery and you can't expect world class players to show up every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Ok, so about these ridiculous ppl now-days, that demand relics +1, or whatnot, for CM runs etc...just stop it
    The relic wanters just want to clear the dungeon faster... If you don't like what they're doing, feel free to form your own party and invite anybody.
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  8. #28
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Why thank you for commenting on my performance, of which you know nothing about
    You just proved my point.
    Doing more then 100% is impossible by definition... however people always seem to think it is?

    Even if you were performing ideally, someone better geared performing ideally is going to get better results.
    End of discussion.
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  9. #29
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    Tryst Wildkey
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    You know, once I was finished reading your post, I saw an image in my mind of a 4'9" man climbing out of a hummer.

    That's now what I'm going to see every time someone is bouncing around in active mode in the middle of a city with their relic weapons on.

    Thank you OP
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

  10. #30
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MomoOG View Post
    So what was your protip exactly? To group with undergeared people? Oooookay...
    nope, it was to not assume, that someone with relic, is better than someone with GC wep.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kirea View Post
    It's funny today i was told i sucked because i refuse to get Darklight, even though in ak gear alone i was main healing Coil, The fact of the mater people think gear = skill, and with more idiots buying titan runs and relics than ever before...gear means absolutely nothing but people think otherwise....i don't see ARR lasting much longer due to these elitest's
    Ya, in most cases DL is just a small upgrade from AK.
    But no, all games have this attitude, ARR wont last any shorter amount of time, than any other game, for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MomoOG View Post
    This just in. You can be properly geared and still be competent at your job!
    *Properly* is a loose definition. Is "Properly" geared for CM, Relic and DL?
    Most of the damage/heals, come from Wep atk, not armors. By default, you probably have relic for coil, unless you go as an alt; the rest don't matter as much.
    500 more hp wont matter when caduceus crit you 12k...and 10more damage wont matter, when it has...duno, a mil hp?

    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    You just proved my point.
    Doing more then 100% is impossible by definition... however people always seem to think it is?

    Even if you were performing ideally, someone better geared performing ideally is going to get better results.
    End of discussion.
    Not really.
    A BRD is always going to outperform a MNK, since BRD can attack from anywhere, and is not placement dependent, which is why my GC BRD outperformed a relic +1 MNK.
    In case you doubt his performance, 2 other DPS in the party died, at Titan 30% HP, so me and the MNK and some other DPS, took down the last 30% without issues.
    I don't know where you get the idea from, that i think i was performing over 100% you're just putting words in my mouth.
    Ofc i know that if i had DL and Relic, i'd done much better, and if there was another relic BRD in party, he'd have done much better than me.
    I'm just pointing out relic/DL shouldn't be a minimum requirement for anything before Coil...since you cant even get relic until AFTER Titan.
    DL is a small min/max upgrade from AK; it's a bonus, not a requirement. Anyone who thinks it's a requirement for pre-Coil, is wrong.
    On a sidenote, i was healing at Caduceus, with SCH, with ifrit book, and main tank, that had relic WHM at him, died before my less geared tank died...
    And in case you want to argue ideal performance again, if everyone was performing ideally, we'd have won easily ofc, regardless of healer/DPS gear, since apparently Ifrit book, was enough to keep tank alive.
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