Endgame Content To Easy

[Reflux]

Blossom you are right, there needs to be more content that is harder. If we can clear current content in 45 minutes, which once Twintania is fixed or people figure something out.. that will be included in 45 minutes lol. We really need SE to understand that harder content needs to come out.

FFXI was really unforgiving endgame and it made that part of the game really fun. Most of the people who made it to 75 early on know what I am talking about with difficulty. It also took forever to get your relic weapon, or even +1 gear/AF2. Things like that keep people playing with things to do.

SE needs to man up and put harder content on the table.

[BlossomRose]

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Let's get something straight here.

I don't want boss fights that last several HOURS like in FFXI.

But I do think that there should be enough content to make at least SIX TO NINE HOURS of raiding per week.

That's two or three days at three hours a day, which I consider a sane amount of raiding to also have a life.

40 minutes, or however any it'll be once they fix and nerf Twintania, is kinda small.

Yeah, yeah, casuals like the OP can get several hours out of the Coil right now. But I'm talking for people who actually get stuff down.

[KelenaeV]

FFXI wasnt hard ether. Dont fool yourself lol. Only thing that made it hard was the drop rate.

[Layenem]

Currently the hardest content SE has is forum posts... 1,000 max characters? Only so many a day? Casuals my ass...

Aside from some people calling others casuals or insulting anyone, I'd agree with Blossom on the raiding. One fight being impossibly because of a broken mechanic doesn't make it hard core, hell if anything it's a rip off on the devs side just trying to hit that mark where Yoshi said he expected something like 100 or less players to complete it? (Don't remember actual number, just making a point)... Well give me THAT then! And make the WHOLE raid like that... Not just the final fight.

Of course keeping in mind that this game is created for casuals first (Yoshi's words, not mine) and hard core players as a distant second...

The problem with that processing is that every game has done this in the last 8 years and every one of them has failed... Don't appease the hard core, you've got no one posting to youtube (other then just boss fights) and you've lost a HUGE majority of your youtube marketing since most people go to a select few names. Sure there are way more casual players then hard core, but pleasing them vs pleasing both is stupid and lazy.

I do like the fact that there are a few different ways you can beat these boss fights depending on group make up... so that's a plus. But we all know *current*CT is going to be a one nighter for people who are clearing *current*BC and that's going to suck even more. I'm cool with his plan to nerf difficulty of previous raids so that ALL players can get in and see the story lines first hand and experience the boss fights first hand (since having the gear a tier beyond makes them void anyways)... I just want more raids, and not more easy raids, more progression raids. I don't see SE providing this but I'm willing to give them more time (since there isn't anything else out there atm anyways)

[Nemhy]

I don't really think anyone can call all of endgame easy or "casual" when Twintania remains unbeaten...

[Pellegri]

I don't really think anyone can call all of endgame easy or "casual" when Twintania remains unbeaten...

You and other people need to learn the reason why it hasn't been killed before you continue coming into threads acting like it's the hardest thing in the world. The fight remains unkillable because a gamebreaking bug with twister positioning where even the rng of the gods cannot prevent the eventual one shot of everyone in your group. Baring that the fight still remains hard and cannot be walked over till twisters, but this fight would have been done by atleast a handful or 2 groups by now had it not been for the bug.

[Horg]

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Most serious FCs would have downed Twin by now if it weren't for the unavoidable twisters of instant Death.

I hate to say it, but I agree 100% with Blossom, it's been a long time since I've seen really challenging (and not optional challenging) raid content. The height of my personal raiding career was T5/T6 in BC WoW, when your raid gear made you stand out and the instances took months to clear and hours a week to progress. MMOs have been casual for a long time, I don't think anyone has even attempted to make a truly challenging and rewarding MMORPG, these games feel more like a social network than a video game now.

[NarwhalShadowsun]

You and other people need to learn the reason why it hasn't been killed before you continue coming into threads acting like it's the hardest thing in the world. The fight remains unkillable because a gamebreaking bug with twister positioning where even the rng of the gods cannot prevent the eventual one shot of everyone in your group. Baring that the fight still remains hard and cannot be walked over till twisters, but this fight would have been done by atleast a handful or 2 groups by now had it not been for the bug.

You guys are getting blindingly mad about Twintania, even though the devs stated barely anyone would finish it, we're still all assuming it's a bug.

[Horg]

You guys are getting blindingly mad about Twintania, even though the devs stated barely anyone would finish it, we're still all assuming it's a bug.

Apparently you have not experienced or even watched videos of Twintania Twister Phase...essentially she starts casting, twisters spawn under a few people and you dodge it, easy right? But about half of the time the twister just kills you, regardless of your original location or how far you move, it is impossible to live through or avoid. I'm not sure what strat would actually negate that...and if you can think of it, probably all the FCs currently working on it have. If it is not bugged, then it's 100% just a mechanic so SE can say "Hey look, our content is hard! No one can beat the last boss. Haha, suckers".

[NarwhalShadowsun]

Apparently you have not experienced or even watched videos of Twintania Twister Phase...essentially she starts casting, twisters spawn under a few people and you dodge it, easy right? But about half of the time the twister just kills you, regardless of your original location or how far you move, it is impossible to live through or avoid. I'm not sure what strat would actually negate that...and if you can think of it, probably all the FCs currently working on it have. If it is not bugged, then it's 100% just a mechanic so SE can say "Hey look, our content is hard! No one can beat the last boss. Haha, suckers".

All of these things are still assumptions though, it may be intended to be impossible at this time, or under these conditions