Endgame Content To Easy

[marksierens]

Watch out we got a bad ass over here... mister suck it up and and ooh i workout, well tell you what, i workout i work and study, workout 1hour each 3 days 1 day off then repeat that means 6 days in the week,
just listen to yourself, what are this words youre putting in my mouth? did i say they didnt sacrificed for it? did i say they didnt earn it? wherever have i said that? you also seem to think i want the game to be "dumbed down" as well? Please Before youre gonna judge someone atleast back it up with proof, get off your high ego horse. "if you cant suck it up like me" apart from that sounding funny youre also comparing yourself to me? you dont know me, you dont know how hard ive worked, you dont know if ive earned it. seems to me you are the only one "dumbing down" things here. thanks for the laughs tho

[MirariMirai]

did i say they didnt sacrificed for it? did i say they didnt earn it? wherever have i said that? you also seem to think i want the game to be "dumbed down" as well? Please Before youre gonna judge someone atleast back it up with proof, get off your high ego horse. "if you cant suck it up like me" apart from that sounding funny youre also comparing yourself to me? you dont know me, you dont know how hard ive worked, you dont know if ive earned it. seems to me you are the only one "dumbing down" things here. thanks for the laughs tho

coming from someone who started judging the community

oh so working out and studying means u have so much of a life? everyone has to conform to your restrictions? facepalm, you don't have to justify that you have a life.... no one cares

like wise I don't know you and YOU don't KNOW EVERYONE else so .... stop judging everyone else

u reek of a little kid filled with filthy jealousy

[Hayward]

I'm glad some of you got the point I was making in my last post. Exaggeration tends to convey a point very well when all other means of communication fail. I take your points that not all of the more energetic players in the game are like the ones I speak of, but I do stand by my position of being leery of those who clamor for harder content so adamantly. More challenging content is fine and if SE provides it curiosity would compel me to at least take a look. What concerns me is that more challenging content is merely cover for what some people really desire: exclusive content beatable only by them (Think Absolute Virtue/Pandemonium Warden).

[Xystic]

The title of the thread is just silly. If anyone took the time to look at the progression threads on every server, people would realize, most FC's still can't even down twintania yet, even after the nerf. We have to keep in mind, the progression threads consist of people who are usually dedicated to raiding. We aren't even including casuals. If a the majority of the dedicated raiders aren't even done with current content, logically, where do you think the casuals stand?

Some servers haven't even downed Twintania yet and 2.1 is going to be here in less then 30 days. People want new content but people haven't gotten thru the current content. Yet I'm seeing a thread that says endgame content too easy with people supporting this. Evidence supports the fact that endgame content is pretty tough for the majority of the community. Seeing people throw out their opinions battling evidenced kills/progression is pretty silly.

[Abyssbanisher]

I personally agree with much of what you said, and I myself consider my gaming habits somewhere between casual and hardcore depending on my responsibilities. But in general, no one is ruining the experience for you. Balancing a game to be approachable, yet difficult and rewards that are tangible yet very rewarding is extremely difficult when most games are not made to satisfy those needs to us individuals, but to make money. It's ugly, but it's the truth. Companies like Blizzard do a fairly good job listening to their fans and although they had a blunder with D3 at launch, they will make up for it by making it better. Square did something similar with this game but will always appeal to the masses, over hardcore gaming out of necessity. If I could make this game better though it would be through character customization, materia and end game dungeons. That would be the most direct way to appeal to as many people as possible, whilst leaving most of the game intact as is for casual peeps.

[Babylyn90]

endgame content is pretty tough for the majority of the community

Isn't that how it typically goes for a young MMO? The bigger badass FCs who put more hours into the game beat it first (and somewhat quickly)? I'm somewhere between hardcore and causal (maybe?), but I have no problem with there being content that I'd need to put more time into in order to complete.

Yoshi-P says he hopes the game has years of subs, and if they could push content out at a reasonable rate, does it really matter that the majority of players haven't reached it yet? Hell, as a casual I'd be thinking "heck yea! more for me to do when I get to 50 and/or complete raid-X" or even "my fc isn't doing to well on this dungeon, maybe we could do a couple of runs on this one just to give us something to do".

Again, its an MMO, which is appealing because at any one level you typically have options. If those options range according to difficulty, so what? I'm sure players with similar RL time constraints could also work on an FC, setting up runs if they need to, even if they don't have the same amount of time to dedicate to the game.

[Badguy]

its the ridiculously annoying mechanics, like turn 2 rot passing.

Ok with a group of decent players, who basically require a VOIP program (hurray communicating with rage modes, drunk people, and whiners that I don't even know)
to do the run to being with.
come on, DO THIS MECHANIC PERFECTLY OR INSTANT WIPE.
That's a lazy mechanic to a fight. enough with the timers, the enraging bosses ect.
can't they do a fight that's just genuinely fun to do and has a little rom for error?

coil turns are an absolute nightmare to do unless youre with people you know, why should I run with newer players when all that really means in the end is "man this is going to be a long night of losing over and over" simply because the mechanics are too unforgiving, I mean if everything is going to be an AOE fest, at least change the duct tape on the servers every once in a while.

[ChickensEvil]

its the ridiculously annoying mechanics, like turn 2 rot passing.

Ok with a group of decent players, who basically require a VOIP program (hurray communicating with rage modes, drunk people, and whiners that I don't even know)
to do the run to being with.
come on, DO THIS MECHANIC PERFECTLY OR INSTANT WIPE.
That's a lazy mechanic to a fight. enough with the timers, the enraging bosses ect.
can't they do a fight that's just genuinely fun to do and has a little rom for error?

coil turns are an absolute nightmare to do unless youre with people you know, why should I run with newer players when all that really means in the end is "man this is going to be a long night of losing over and over" simply because the mechanics are too unforgiving, I mean if everything is going to be an AOE fest, at least change the duct tape on the servers every once in a while.

You don't *need* voice comms to do the fight... it just makes it easier to coordinate. Focus target the person you are supposed to be picking the rot up from. Watch their timer for pick up, watch your timer for drop off... where is the *need* for comms there... pay attention to your own little world. Where voice comms become "required" is on interrupts and boss swapping. But even those could be worked around with some clever shout macros. "I am interrupting. Interrupt on CD for 30 seconds" and "Oh S*** I screwed up someone else get the interrupt". Cause that is pretty much all we say in TS...

Also, I don't know what kind of bad people you are trying to do coil with, but almost every week it seems we have had to pull in at least 1 pug or more into our group. Heck one week I did coil with only 3 people having played with each other before and the rest was a total PUG. For most of us, it was our first time in Coil, and yet we made it all the way to turn 4. So sorry, gotta disagree with you. You just need to stop playing with bad people maybe?

[TaneshimaPopura]

@ Badguy.

Trying doing the 13 seconds 5 times pass then stack together. The rot will auto pass itself for there onwards, if you have 5 people all stacked within range of the contagion. Fights in this game are way too simple scripted, once you know the script it's just reading it to yourself and perform it.

[sylphielsc]

i guess we need a mode like real life, if you die, lost char, and ppl can loot that ^^