A Warrior's Invincibility

[DartFx]

I attempted something last night and it seemed to work, this in no way possible will close the gap between a PLD and a WAR by much, but it does give you 6-11 seconds of breathing space. A WAR has 1 skill that is pretty much disregarded by most, that is "Holmgang" -Binds user and target in place for 6 seconds. They also have a stun that lasts for 5 seconds; Brutal Swing.

Now, lets say the Warrior was in a tough spot where his HP has dropped significantly and it will take a decent amount of time to bring him back, or we can also say that your healer is running low on MP, either way, you're basically in a shitty situation. Assuming the monster you're fighting is susceptible to stuns, you can use Brutal Swing to stun him, quickly run behind and cast Holmgang when your stun is about to run out. This pretty much gives you 6-11 seconds of NOT being attacked, UNLESS the monster uses AoEs around him, in which case, you should be prepared by knowing the fight.

I'd like to say again that this in no way closes the gap between PLD and WAR CDs, but it is a great way to give some breathing space to you, you're healer and you're party.

Just my two cents, would appreciate some feedback from those who have done Coils and know the fights.

[Scape13]

Probably the least used skill we got. It's actually pretty helpful at times. But, I tend to forget I even have it when in those situations it would be helpful lol.

[PessimiStick]

Things that actually make warriors poor tanks are almost always:
A) Not stunnable
B) Not Holmgangable
C) Both

[Tronic]

Assuming the monster you're fighting is susceptible to stuns, you can use Brutal Swing to stun him.

Here's your problem. Sure, I can use it on Dullahans. But then again they're not worth the trouble, either.

[DartFx]

Here's your problem. Sure, I can use it on Dullahans. But then again they're not worth the trouble, either.

I do get that my whole theory relies on one big "IF", however, like I stated in the OP, this is meant for those "Oh shit" moments when you really need some time to cooldown, let your healer gain mp. Either way, I've yet to hit coils but if this were to work in there it would definitely help. My most recent attempt was against the 2nd boss in WP, when he dumps all hate and goes after the healer, I was easily able to cast Holmgang and give the healer time to distance himself and recover MP.
Thanks for your feedback.

[Zoomie]

My most recent attempt was against the 2nd boss in WP, when he dumps all hate and goes after the healer.

Uh... it isn't an aggro drop. He targets someone at random in the party and follows them for X time. It says this in huge letters across your screen.

[DartFx]

Uh... it isn't an aggro drop. He targets someone at random in the party and follows them for X time. It says this in huge letters across your screen.

Uh, it's still an aggro drop since he stops targetting you to go after someone else. Essentially, it is the same thing.
This thread isn't a debate of whether or not it's an aggro drop, it's whether or not Brutal Swing and Holmgang can be used as a combination defensive CD.

[Giantbane]

Uh, it's still an aggro drop since he stops targetting you to go after someone else. Essentially, it is the same thing.
This thread isn't a debate of whether or not it's an aggro drop, it's whether or not Brutal Swing and Holmgang can be used as a combination defensive CD.

You're right, it is a cool ability for the occasional fight it works on.. It just often doesn't work all that often :/

Problem is that this method does not work where it counts which is in the raids.

he did say in the OP that this wasn't going to close the gap between WAR and PLD at all, so I don't think it's fair to take the discussion there

[Hachiko]

he did say in the OP that this wasn't going to close the gap between WAR and PLD at all, so I don't think it's fair to take the discussion there

It's not worth discussing because it isn't an option on any bosses. The last boss you can bind is Garuda, and she's immune to stuns.

[Ariyn]

Problem is that this method does not work where it counts which is in the raids.