Map size

[Lethaltyrant]

Is it just me or does the map feel really small compared to FFXI. Like it use to take time to get places but i feel like i can run from one city to another so easily and there isnt anything to really explore now. That was one of my favorite things of FFXI the large zones at least they felt big. Do you think with future expansions they zones will get biger or they will just add a lot of current size zones?

[Trasias]

Is it just me or does the map feel really small compared to FFXI. Like it use to take time to get places but i feel like i can run from one city to another so easily and there isnt anything to really explore now. That was one of my favorite things of FFXI the large zones at least they felt big. Do you think with future expansions they zones will get biger or they will just add a lot of current size zones?

Well, considering that FFXI has multiple expansions out... and FFXIV is brand new...

Also, the size for both Vanillas is about the same - you've just been babied by the new "Teleport" system.

[Lethaltyrant]

Maybe it is how easy it is to get around granted i try not to use the teleport system to much since it drains my gil. I take a porter to airship or something. I joined FFXI after i think the first 4 expansions where released. At that point it was big to me, but hopefully in the future it will get that feel again.

[Gilraen]

Actually, XI's maps are a bit bigger, but there's a reason they can do that and it's the same reason that had people complaining in 1.0. Copy-paste. XI makes heavy use of it, they just switch it up so that it's not as obvious. 1.0's zones were huge in comparison, but they weren't as clever with the copy-pasting allowing people to literally count it's uses. Yoshida asked players if they were okay with that in 2.0 and not a one said yes. So, instead, we got 'smaller' zones with very little copy-paste. The masses spoke, Yoshida listened, it's our own fault if we think the zones are small.

[Ebojager]

Is it just me or does the map feel really small compared to FFXI. Like it use to take time to get places but i feel like i can run from one city to another so easily and there isnt anything to really explore now. That was one of my favorite things of FFXI the large zones at least they felt big. Do you think with future expansions they zones will get biger or they will just add a lot of current size zones?

I kinda thought this also. For one I think everyone moves faster, so it takes less time. Also the scale seems off, like far off characters look too small and dont seem to increase or decrease size at an appropriate rate for the speed. When I went back to FFXI last week, it was amazing how slow everyone moved. Probably why it took so long. In my opinion we all are all moving too fast in FFXIV.

[Yukagama]

Is it just me or does the map feel really small compared to FFXI. Like it use to take time to get places but i feel like i can run from one city to another so easily and there isnt anything to really explore now. That was one of my favorite things of FFXI the large zones at least they felt big. Do you think with future expansions they zones will get biger or they will just add a lot of current size zones?

Really looking forward to having a much wider zone.

[Azazela]

Its terribly small, and the segmenting and load times don't help at all.

[Tupsi]

Actually, XI's maps are a bit bigger, but there's a reason they can do that and it's the same reason that had people complaining in 1.0. Copy-paste. XI makes heavy use of it

The only "copy paste" XI used were similar zones, i.e Valkurm Dones and Cape Terrigan, the rest are made by theme, like all Zilartian areas that were manmade uses cerment, which is why Delkfutt, Feiyin and Ru'Aun Gardens had similar designs but significantly different interiors, similar to real life, victorian houses are all pretty much the same which is why you can easily spot a victorian house. So "heavy use" is stretching it a bit unless you get into specifics.

1.0 zones made heavy use of Copy-Paste, I didn't travel Sarutabaruta then later traveled Gustaburg and felt I was walking down the same chunk of land numerous times.

[Gilraen]

XI's copy-paste wasn't like 1.0's copy-paste. It was more copying part of object A and part of object B to make object C. This was used alot. They also used texturing to make the objects look different. 1.0 didn't really do that.

[roohan]

The game doesn't have any expansion yet, so it's hard to compare it to FFXI. But it's definatly true that many areas in FFXI felt like empty zones because there was almost no content attached to them. This really better in FFXIV. Another thing is that FFXI zones where more opened. FFXIV has alot more trees, stones and so on in the zones, this gives a feeling of smaller zones compared to FFXI also. And yes the most important part is traveling, this was much harder in FFXI. I think for a base game without expansions, they did really well in FFXIV.