End game problem, and say no to vote kick! Plz

[Horg]

Another poor soul who apparently has never played an MMORPG and thinks they are the center of the entire FFXIV ARR Universe. I will give you this, your post(s) are at least 10 times longer than the other 999 posts complaining "I was playing the game *sniff* and these meanies told me to skip scenes *sniff* and hurt my feelings". It's an MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) game, you are gong to run into jerks, and often, grow up and learn to live with it. Life lessons delivered to the innocent children.

*edit* I do agree Vote Kick can and will be abused, but is better than dealing with AFK leechers / bad players making dungeon completion impossible. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

[CianaIezuborn]

The game gives a bonus to the entire team for completing it with a first time player to the dungeon in your group

Unfortunately, this bonus is bonus exp so functionally useless. I would love to see a double stone bonus for running people their first time on dungeons, this is such a missed opportunity by SE I can't even stand it.

The problem is that the same two story dungeons that finish out your story line are also the best source of Philo stones you need for Darklight. I still have not decided if this was divine brilliance or utter madness on the developers parts.

PROS:
Extremely fast queue times for people working on their story quest compared to Cape Westwind and other trials
Geared folks that know the run and will get through quickly
You are almost guaranteed success
CONS:
Expectation that you skip cutscenes upon entering the instance and watch them later in Inn
Expectation that you know the fights (though they are all extremely easy to pick up on as they are happening)

If you people really want to do speed runs that bad then please find a group of like minded people and to the duty with them to your hearts content, but if you use the duty finder to get that new player bonus then you owe it to that player to be patient with them and let them enjoy their game, after all you wouldn't get the bonus if they weren't in the group. Least you can do be civil and act like an adult. We're not animals, we live in a society.

Unfortunately, the amount of people running CM for tomes at this point appears to outmatch the amount of people running for story quest. So the expectation is that if you're in the duty finder queue, you're there for a speed run. If you really want a slow run to watch the cut scenes you're better off getting a full party together and queuing that way. Regardless, there is effectively no bonus so your argument is invalid. Though there should be one!

Regardless, neither here nor there as it pertains to a vote kicking tool, and even if it were used to remove players simply because they didn't want to skip a cutscene in CM still the lesser of two evils compared to afk abuse of the current system.

[Soukyuu]

It goes both ways:
If you want a guaranteed speedrun, go organize your own group.
If you want a guaranteed story, non-skipping run, organize a group.
If you use DF, you will get a mixed group. Neither can force the others to play your way, so either accept it or organize your own group where you set the rules.

[Brises]

Vote kick will not be abused if they limit how and when it can be used. I don't think it will be possible to kick people for simply not playing as well, or for watching cut scenes. Most likely, if a player is inactive for a certain amount of time, the kick option will become available. Perhaps a window will pop up saying:

"______ has been inactive for X minutes. Would you like to remove and replace?"

As far as people going through the story the first time, I agree that they should be entitled to watch the cut scenes during the instance. I believe the right to view the content overrides the right to skip it. After all, that's why people are in Revenants Toll shouting for SR parties.

[Lafier]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just post 6 times in a row? Have you ever heard of the enter button and that it's used to go down to the next space in the text?

It's really nifty because you can separate out your topics this way without making post after post.

On a more related topic. You have every right to watch those cut scenes the 1st time your in there. If you want to by god do it. But those other 7 people have every right to leave you behind and keep going if they don't want to wait on you.

[darkstarpoet1]

where do i go to vote? i can't wait to vote yes in favor of having vote kicks

[NovaLevossida]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just post 6 times in a row? Have you ever heard of the enter button and that it's used to go down to the next space in the text?

It's really nifty because you can separate out your topics this way without making post after post.

On a more related topic. You have every right to watch those cut scenes the 1st time your in there. If you want to by god do it. But those other 7 people have every right to leave you behind and keep going if they don't want to wait on you.

I know you're trying to come off as being on the high ground with your condescending tone, but there's a 1000 char limit on posts, and you can only bypass that by posting and hitting Edit to paste in the text over the amount. But keep on teaching the basics of paragraph construction while not realizing why the poster actually posted so many times.

[Seidaku]

I still think SE needs to make it mandatory for people to watch the scenes the first time through, like when you first start the game you have to watch the opening movie the first time.

This will force people to accept the fact that the cutscenes are part of the game. Also anyone who reports someone for watching the scene should be suspended because you know for a fact they grieved someone for it so that is more against the terms than the person who was watching it lol.

[sasakusaku]

FYI OP, you can get around the 1k word limit by simply editing your post. Keep this in mind next time.

[SassyRJ]

I don't think he knew about the post limit and was making multiple post because of the 1000 character limit. I did this til I found out you have to go edit your post to be able to add additional text. but man you guys are quick to attack someone for every little thing they do. The guy said he was new, and by his posting habit that is obvious. You attack him for that, and wrong use of the term "end game". The guy just said he bad experience in the game and came to the forum community only to get this kind of welcome. God no wonder people say the community for this game is horrible

I'm Also new and didn't realize this was a "thing" but yeah I have to agree, not knowing there where people like this in the game as a new player and joining on my last few levels of story, all excited for the conclusion, only to get harassed for not skipping it would piss me off.

Whats worse he wasn't complaining about the complainers in game, but about being reported for not skipping game content, and again I agree thats childish and would piss me off too. Did you guys bother to read his post or did your nerd rage kick in and you just went into attack mode. The game was designed to welcome new MMO players (like Death and myself) to the world of MMO's, its a damn shame the MMO vets in here don't do the same. I agree with him, vote kick should be left only for idle players and leaches, not new comers getting used to how things work, and experienced players should group together to avoid "newbie grief" after all you are experienced enough to know how to do that. Can't expect a newbie to do what you would do, thats just unfair