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  1. #21
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    YuriRamona's Avatar
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    Yuri Ramona
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team will be carefully examining the pros and cons of implementing an exchange system like this, while also giving careful consideration towards items that are implemented in the future and the value of items that can be exchanged.
    A fool-proof way to prevent abuse is simply to only allow exchange/refund of equipment without spiritbond. There's no real reason why a player would have something that isn't being used, unless it was a mistake.
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  2. #22
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by YuriRamona View Post
    A fool-proof way to prevent abuse is simply to only allow exchange/refund of equipment without spiritbond. There's no real reason why a player would have something that isn't being used, unless it was a mistake.
    ..Probably because people switch their mains and want to get rid of stuff they no longer will be using? In XI and 1.0 it wasn't a problem, but ARR is heavily restricted in "recycling."

    Can't really abuse the system since you also can't go over Myth cap as is.
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  3. #23
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    Flynn Rosenberg
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I would love this. I was stupid enough to buy two of the same DL ring, thought I could just deposit one in the bank and then buy another and equip both. Nope. My own fault really!
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  4. #24
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    Vali Bergthora
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Worst scenario imagine you just spent 3 weeks getting a Relic body, You join a random Coils group and your Allagan body drops.... Damn just wasted 3 weeks of farming. Would be nice to trade that body back in to help get something else.
    I supported your idea RIGHT UP UNTIL YOU SAID THAT.

    You should be spending your tomes smarter, not faster.

    Buy things you can only replace in Turn 5 first. That's Relic+1, and what pieces otherwise depends on your class (for example, tanks can only replace their head gear in Turn 5, as well as I believe the neck piece. Every other piece drops in Turn 1-4).

    Most of every other point proposed is very good, it's just that single one that irked me. With how limited Myth tomes are, you should do some research on what the most efficient way to spend them is before you do so. Spending them on Turn 1-2 drops is just silly unless you're OK with the potential trap it creates.
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  5. #25
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    Andrien Bellcross
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    I'd like to exchange relic armor.. I bought the wrong body piece by accident.

    Thats like 3 weeks work
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  6. #26
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team will be carefully examining the pros and cons of implementing an exchange system like this, while also giving careful consideration towards items that are implemented in the future and the value of items that can be exchanged.
    Thanks as this would be a great thing to have for leveling up another job, without having to grind around 5000 tomes.
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  7. #27
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    Cyprus Silvermoon
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I would just like to see all of this DL & iLVL55+ gear become convertible. I had the idea of not being able to turn all of my old AK gear into Materia when I don't need it anymore...the same for DL gear. Would be a great way to keep people farming for DL gear if they could make the higher tier Materia from it.
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  8. #28
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlossomRose View Post
    I supported your idea RIGHT UP UNTIL YOU SAID THAT.

    You should be spending your tomes smarter, not faster.

    Buy things you can only replace in Turn 5 first. That's Relic+1, and what pieces otherwise depends on your class (for example, tanks can only replace their head gear in Turn 5, as well as I believe the neck piece. Every other piece drops in Turn 1-4).

    Most of every other point proposed is very good, it's just that single one that irked me. With how limited Myth tomes are, you should do some research on what the most efficient way to spend them is before you do so. Spending them on Turn 1-2 drops is just silly unless you're OK with the potential trap it creates.
    It was just an example I don't know what gear drops on what turn for which jobs. And yes most jobs Relic+1 for sure.
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  9. #29
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriRamona View Post
    A fool-proof way to prevent abuse is simply to only allow exchange/refund of equipment without spiritbond. There's no real reason why a player would have something that isn't being used, unless it was a mistake.
    I really don't see the harm in someone simply exchanging a piece of gear they have or haven't spirit bonded. It also depends on the type of system they would be able to implement. Would we have a system so we could exchange item for item like MNK DL head for BRD DL head, Or would we have a system to allow us to exchange our gear in for tomes perhaps a 20%-45% of the total cost of the item the percent left up to the DEVs.

    I know that it was said that at some point they would lower the cost of DL/Relic gear but idk when that would be. But in the mean time I would like to exchange my now unused DL gear for tomes to go toward another piece of gear for a future job. Also would like to add that unless SE comes up with new Materia levels where DL/Relic can turn in to Tier V for future Crafting gear then Materia Assu. is a total waste for these items.

    If anyone can think of Pros and Cons please list them.

    Pros- Making use of gear that would other wise sit in my inventory as it becomes outdated, Help gear another job
    Cons- I can't really think of any Abuse that can happen. Maybe if it was Item for Item there could be something, But if there is maybe there could be a limit on trades per week/month.

    But I would really prefer trading gear for a certain percent of the total cost of the item.
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  10. #30
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    Mars Feroshia
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Once you get the gear its essentially worthless after you've gotten something better. When I came back here from ffxi had full af on mnk, got full darklight in the next 2 days, and no reason to keep AF so it's tossed.

    Same with relic that i've obtained since gear is only good for that class/job (mnk/pugilist) in terms of darklight once you get relic body or something there is no reason to keep it, unless ofc SE decides to make some sorta of event thats class only, which I highly doubt.

    This design is fairly uncomfortable to me because it's odd having to just straight up toss gear once you have a new item for the slot. I know this game isnt in ffxi but as a COR my af hat was the best QD hat for cor even at lv 75. Same goes for like NIN af body, was still the best TPing body for nin at 75 and even after that to a point depending on your gear.
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    Last edited by Mars_Feroshia; 10-19-2013 at 07:37 AM.

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