this game is all about grinding at max level.

[Strelnikov]

I'm also so glad that there is still at least SOME grinding in MMOs. The OP is attempting to use colorful adjectives and misleading prepositions to ilicit and emotional response while at the same timeofferign an intolerant opinion with little to no flexibility for discussion. How ya like them apples?

Love apples! Love them more when they come from the heart, with a side order of context, not canned talking points. He has a valid point although this forum is perhaps not the place to make it. How do we make games that bring people together in a way that supports the classes, not create animosity between them?

How do you show advancement through levels without it becoming mind numbing repetition of dungeon runs, that no one enjoys. When does challenge become chore? Not this game, but some game needs to think about this.

The gaming population seems to have changed. We need a different carrot, and maybe even a different stick.