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    Rekujen's Avatar
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    Rekuja Azalon
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    Square-Enix you didn't think this through (alt leveling)

    What happens when your game evens out and low level zones are empty?
    What happens when hunting log isn't enough to grant my alt classes levels?

    I'll tell you what happens... running around as a level 7 Lancer struggling to gain experience because nobody is doing Fates and the Fates don't scale properly for me to solo them.

    I'm on a very populated server (Behemoth) and as of right now, Central Shroud and Western LaNoscea are both empty with roughly 6-7 people in them, and nobody is doing fates.

    I'm asking you, how do I level? my hunting log alone isn't enough and since I've done every quest on my 50 and nobody is doing fates, what can I do?

    you want my suggestion?

    1. Scale Fates, if nobody is around I should be able to solo it.
    2. Reset Guild Hests and Side Quests when you switch class
    3. Add more monsters to each hunting log bracket, or increase EXP gained by 100%.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    That's when you do Guildhest's... oh wait 90 minute queues for DPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujen View Post
    1. Scale Fates, if nobody is around I should be able to solo it.
    2. Reset Guild Hests and Side Quests when you switch class
    3. Add more monsters to each hunting log bracket, or increase EXP gained by 100%.
    1. No, and it already works that way, you can already solo any that do not involve killing a field boss.
    2. Guildhests do not need to be reset, you can do them infinitely, just DF queue. You probably meant levequests.
    3. No, there are different monster sets for each class.

    If you play the entire storyline on one class, then yes you're not going to have enough EXP to level up another combat class. You will need to do dungeons or guildhests instead of FATE's.

    My suggestion is that if you're leveling up a DPS class, don't bother with the DF queues because you will never, ever, be able to do it efficiently. Only DF if you're leveling a healer or a tank, because a healer can't get gold exp in most FATE's unless they have the entire non-field boss FATE to themselves. I've resorted to entering a fate with my level 50 DPS and then changing to my non-DPS class 90 seconds before the fate will end to get the exp on that role, because otherwise I'm only going to get bronze or silver entering as that role.

    FATE's don't scale well for healer classes because if you're around 100 other players doing the same fate, the monster is dead before you even finish casting anything but Aero.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 10-14-2013 at 07:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That's when you do Guildhest's... oh wait 90 minute queues for DPS.
    Not to mention they don't reset when you swap class.. making guildhests only useful once and once only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujen View Post
    Not to mention they don't reset when you swap class.. making guildhests only useful once and once only.
    I only do guildhests on my healer class. I've done several multiple times, and EXP was gained from them every time, I'm not sure what you're getting at with "they don't reset"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I only do guildhests on my healer class. I've done several multiple times, and EXP was gained from them every time, I'm not sure what you're getting at with "they don't reset"
    You only get the "first time completion" bonus once.

    The first time you do them, you get approximately 8x - 10x more experience.

    Doing them more than once is a waste of time, you get really poor experience per hour in comparison to other options.
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    Emiko Gintoki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujen View Post
    Not to mention they don't reset when you swap class.. making guildhests only useful once and once only.
    you should be more clearer, you mean the first time bonus exp you get from each guildhests for doing them the first time
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    Zaphir Kalaphir
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    I agree with the OP. Leveling an alt is a chore -- even getting thaumaturge to 26 for swiftcast was a huge pain. It's not hard, it's not challenging (heck, it's not even particularly slow if you latch onto a fate or chain train), but it's BORING. Ideally in a MMO you should be able to level alts (alt classes in this case) by doing entirely different things. Level one character through quests / main story, another through sidequests, yet another through dungeons / guildhests, one through pvp (when available), etc etc. Right now the options just aren't there.

    Quote Originally Posted by gintoki88 View Post
    you should be more clearer, you mean the first time bonus exp you get from each guildhests for doing them the first time
    Which is the only thing that makes guildhests worth doing in the first place.
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    Rhas Itiron
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That's when you do Guildhest's... oh wait 90 minute queues for DPS.

    FATE's don't scale well for healer classes because if you're around 100 other players doing the same fate, the monster is dead before you even finish casting anything but Aero.
    Oh wait, you can actually select all 4 languages and do both dungeons and guildhests even as DPS with a lot less wait time. Imagine that.

    Aero... really? That's how you are trying to get experience in fates as a cnj/whm? That would explain why you aren't getting very much in fates rating. Try... healing... (imagine that, though I suppose if you are on a PS3 at that point it is a little bit harder than just clicking on a person who doesn't have full health and casting cure) I pull off gold ratings (solo) not even doing any damage in fates. Sure its useful for simply tagging monsters in fates as long as you get the first hit, but healing gets you much more fate credit than aero ever will.
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    Mazi'to Apkallu
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    spam dungeons with friends or do leves
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    Rurod Arkdale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    spam dungeons with friends or do leves
    Dungeon isn't reliable choice for lone wolf
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