Square-Enix you didn't think this through (alt leveling)

[DeceptionsWrath]

Ryios, just because it's an MMO doesn't mean people play it just to play with others. Personally i'd LOVE to be able to do everything on my own or with 1-2 friends. As most of you know, a lot of people on FFXIV are rather mean, and not really worth talking to. Now i know not all are mean, i've meet a few nice ones, but i met far more nasty ones. I play MMO's because it's a never ending game. A game i could put 1,000's of hours in and still not complete everything. A game i pay 15$ a month for and it'll constantly have new content to keep me ( and others) playing it. Not speaking for FFXIV specificly, just MMO's in general.

[HunkyJimpjorps]

Ryios, just because it's an MMO doesn't mean people play it just to play with others. Personally i'd LOVE to be able to do everything on my own or with 1-2 friends. As most of you know, a lot of people on FFXIV are rather mean, and not really worth talking to. Now i know not all are mean, i've meet a few nice ones, but i met far more nasty ones. I play MMO's because it's a never ending game. A game i could put 1,000's of hours in and still not complete everything. A game i pay 15$ a month for and it'll constantly have new content to keep me ( and others) playing it. Not speaking for FFXIV specificly, just MMO's in general.

Why not just accept that the limitations you yourself are putting on the game mean that you won't get to experience everything? Should someone who demands that they always be allowed to play with their 8-man permagroup never have to do solo content?

[Retrograde]

There's a beauty and elegance in the simplicity of charging straight into that one and only one goal. How could you stand just playing one class on the initial playthrough? I know I can't. When I imagine the time you spent in DF queues, I am actually impressed by your tenacity. A single deviation for level 6 lancer, presumably because the elitists are mocking you about level 34 lancer and lack of blood for blood right about now. Not a single DoH, DoL class. You didn't even try on the gear. Amazing sense of purpose.
(*I honestly don't know if I'm being sarcastic or not, the forums certainly will take it that way.)

But with that sort of willpower, I'm sure you can accomplish fate grinding. Somebody said it before, but yes zones are empty. Any FATEs that are not single big boss should be easy enough to accomplish without a group, but it will be slower XP since the zerg isn't around. Until level 15ish, self chain 5 is a good goal and fills in FATE downtime easily. If you have another player to join with, even better.

[Rhas]

*All* mmos, always a grind.

Let me fix that comment for you

[Aixa]

With the chocobo and decent gear you can solo exp chain pretty well

[Musashidon]

do fate on lvl 50 synced job switch to lower lvl class last minute = easy exp from fate

[traja]

Easy solution to this one: Do it all now! Farm those FATEs until your fingers bleed, and then farm some more. Best MMO 2013.

[XNihili]

I can solo the low level Fates if I'm not too overeager, why can't you ?

[Zantetsuken]

I don't understand why Guildhests are a one-time bonus... they should give at least 80% of the EXP that an equivalent FATE would give and there should be a first-time completion bonus for each class.

Didn't Yoshi-P say that Guildhests would be a leveling solution for people looking to party-grind?

I wonder what happened.... :/

[kanjitai]

What happens when your game evens out and low level zones are empty?
What happens when hunting log isn't enough to grant my alt classes levels?

I'll tell you what happens... running around as a level 7 Lancer struggling to gain experience because nobody is doing Fates and the Fates don't scale properly for me to solo them.

I'm on a very populated server (Behemoth) and as of right now, Central Shroud and Western LaNoscea are both empty with roughly 6-7 people in them, and nobody is doing fates.

I'm asking you, how do I level? my hunting log alone isn't enough and since I've done every quest on my 50 and nobody is doing fates, what can I do?

you want my suggestion?

1. Scale Fates, if nobody is around I should be able to solo it.
2. Reset Guild Hests and Side Quests when you switch class
3. Add more monsters to each hunting log bracket, or increase EXP gained by 100%.

I agree with you. There needs to be more ways to level alts.