People who ask for marks in DF

[silentwindfr]

...snips...

the advantage of this setup is the WAR deal damage while generating hate on all target, the summoner AoE capacity (when used correctly is simply insane) have no downtime like the black mage when it get into ice umbral. more important, the hate is more easy at keep even on a summoner with full DL+Relic, because you don't have this phase of burst.

try this setup one time and you will see how insane a group of well geared will simply destroy the content.

[Leiron]

As a tank I never mark mobs, why because they should be aoe-ed down because its faster that way. It bugs me when people ask me to do this. I do not care what mob you are attacking because its not like I am going to lose hate on any of them and if you are single targeting you are making trash pulls take longer. It's very inefficient to focus 1 mob trash mob down in AK vs aoeing them all.

So please stop asking for me to mark mobs.

Mm, I would not say that.
Some classes such as Pugilist, have very weak AoE by comparison to their ST.
So for them, its better to focus down a target, particularly because AoE threat isn't very powerful in this game.
The marking also helps single out priority targets, so the worshippers who summon Soul callers, you want them to die first before anything else since you do not want that extra add u.

Of course, if you over gear the heck out of AK, just AOE it all down.

[Lumines]

If you and your friends are heroes and severely outgear the instance and cannot lose threat or even if so kill them before they can do anything, then yea.. marking may be an unnecessary step. But for everybody else, it's still good practice. E-peen stroking thread!

[Reiterpallasch]

or you could go into duty finder NOT ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS FARMING THE INSTANCE.

Yeah! There are people that go in there for uh... I dunno, the lore of it? Not everyone does endgame dungeons for gear right?

As for marking, I think anything more than marking the first mob in smaller packs is excessive. If you pull 3 mobs, you don't need to mark all 3. Is that last one even remotely necessary?

OP just reeks of laziness.

If by "reeks of laziness" you actually meant "Can successfully aoe tank without needing to mark every mob", then sure. It's not laziness to skip unnecessary steps; it's efficiency.

[NZ_Player]

maybe theyre marked so the herpadps dont break the sleep on the rest and kill you?
not that it would matter because a majority of what ive seen completely ignore any markings .. or roles/jobs .. or anything at all other than pretending to be useful

[Madsamurai]

AOE at every pull? Dude, stop playing this game like freakin' World Of Warcraft.

[Supersomething]

I mark targets because not every dps class in this game is an AOE power house. In addition most pugs I have been in communicate hardly at all aside from maybe saying hello, and unless humans have developed a new sense of telepathy I like having some order and direction in my dungeon runs so I mark my desired kill order. Honestly the only time I would not mark is when I am with my FC in a full group because I can trust them to kill quickly and efficiently unlike many pugs.

I do not think it is such a terrible thing for pugs to ask for target marking, because they are probably asking so they can avoid the wrath of the Tank or Healer potentially chewing them out for pulling aggro and dying. Now in runs like CM or things of that nature I could understand the smaller need to mark but in other dungeons it is helpful.

[g1cbr]

play a range dps, and you'll know how annoying it can be when tanks dont mark target

[Tingel]

AOE at every pull? Dude, stop playing this game like freakin' World Of Warcraft.

I agree. Clearly this guy came staight from that game if he thinks everything everywhere can be AOEd down.

[Karleguarth]

First I'd like to share my view on AoE kills vs 1-after-1 kills:

AoE kills may net each player more damage per skill used, but when the damage dealt on each individual mob is checked, it won't be quicker than a series of focused single target damage skills.
It means, 1-after-1 can reduce the overall damage dealt to the tank, in case no Sleep is used; Whereas AoE kills will have the tank reduce its HP throughout the fight with the full damage from all mobs.