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    Player
    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100

    People who ask for marks in DF

    As a tank I never mark mobs, why because they should be aoe-ed down because its faster that way. It bugs me when people ask me to do this. I do not care what mob you are attacking because its not like I am going to lose hate on any of them and if you are single targeting you are making trash pulls take longer. It's very inefficient to focus 1 mob trash mob down in AK vs aoeing them all.

    So please stop asking for me to mark mobs.
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    so the best place to post this was in the tank board right

    because theres a lot of those two tank fights that need marks right

    not that i agree with your post because i don't, but i think you're preaching to the choir
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    RapBreon's Avatar
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    Rap Breon
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    As a tank I never mark mobs, why because they should be aoe-ed down because its faster that way. It bugs me when people ask me to do this. I do not care what mob you are attacking because its not like I am going to lose hate on any of them and if you are single targeting you are making trash pulls take longer. It's very inefficient to focus 1 mob trash mob down in AK vs aoeing them all.

    So please stop asking for me to mark mobs.
    *pat pat* /empathy and resonance of issue

    You got what you came for, satisfied?
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    W'ynx Wolfoot
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Marks are usefull because we can't take hate on all enemy at once easily, and spamming AOE taunts are not really a good way.

    I Use marks because it help mono target DPS to know what to hit.

    The Tank goal is to avoir the healer to get Aggro because he don't have choice he generate Hate on All ennemies. The more adds in a fight the more I took damage the more the heal I need, the more hate the healer generate.
    I can generate more hate than a healer but not the DPS if they DPS like hell. On mono target, the 3rd hit of the aggro combo will generate a LOT but only for one target I have to cycle.

    Without numbers I can't keep aggro on Archers or dragoon/monks if I spam flash or Mutilation, if ennemies are a bit resistant.

    So it's depends the DPS, the group, if they are strangers or friends... Numbers is an automatism now I use numbers, it's always usefull.
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    Trystane Scuro
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    As a healer I disagree with the OP.

    Firstly, not all DPS-classes shine at AOE... and not all monsters are easier/faster to kill with AOE. Most times it is easier to focus down mob after mob.

    Secondly, In most random groups its annoying, when every dps´er takes his/her own target and starts working in his own solo rythm.

    Its a matter of time till one of the mobs wanders off towards either the zealous DPSer or towards the healer and the tank has to run after it... then he will lose another mob soon after and the real chaos begins.

    Of course... if you have either a group that works well together or you have a group that is overgeared for the content... then it is a different thing.

    But in random groups with content for your level of gear... you better get some order into the fights and that is easiest done by marking. (Be it from Tank or one of the DPS, dont care)
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    Bhaelor Garreleon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I've never had anyone during a dungeon ask me to stop marking, yet I have had players express an appreciation for marking. I feel like the one key press (at minimum) it takes to put a mark up is worth the time cost to put a little stability into trash pulls.
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    Qt Symba
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I never really mark, i just flash/combo on the mob that the dps is hitting I guess. If somebody pulls trash aggro in AK it's not the end of the world, plus I have cover for when I'm feeling extra lazy.
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    Jaminos's Avatar
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    Jaminos Talon
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I see marking mobs as insurance. If the DPS attacks a NPC marked for sleep than I can say that they screwed that up and not me. I also always inform them what my marks mean so they can't plead ignorance.
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    Tanking in MMO's for over 10 years.

    "For by fire, I am reborn!"


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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 61
    Thats just so wrong. Dont know where even to begin with.
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    Joshua Striker
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I can't multitask so i'm gonna whine
    Dude really? I mark targets on a PS3 as the party is AoE mobs during battle. Even if 4+ mobs are pulled on accident i'll mark 1-3 at a time just to give direction. Leadership and direction is what they are complaining to you about , and I wouldn't blame them for that at all. It is just instinct to me at this stage playing my WAR. Stop crying, man up, and take control of the battle. You are a tank. If you play a Warrior, your ancient ancestors from the skeletons of the Warrior's past, i'd assume, would have to be very displeased with you.
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