Fishing and the Market, what am I supposed to sell?

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

What am I supposed to sell? Really, I'm trying to understand the usage of High level fishing.

Silver shark can be fished at level 30 and those (were) the most selling thing out there.
Now because there isn't any other good fishing resource out there, silver shark price has fallen by 50% (from 3500 to 2000) and are not bought anymore, only HQ sells a bit.

ALL the other fishes (more rare obviously) like sunfish, titanic sawfish are not used for anything and are supposed to be the most rare fishes out there.

Not only this, I can't gather shard with fishing and I have no idea why but ALL high level recipes do not use rare fishes to be built, only some low level fishes which can be found for 1 gil on the market board.

Really, tell me the purpose of fishing, I've leveled culinarian and fishing and I found myself without a gathering skill, so I have to buy shard (because I can't gather those) and all materials for my recipes because mine are not used for best foods.

[KingZeus]

seriously.... this has been asked plenty of times. there is a sub forum called Disciples of the Land...

if you are seriously asking "what" to sell.... look at your own market on your server...... see what is selling..... decide what you want to sell.... what is in demand.... what is worth your time.... etc etc etc

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/102131-lv50-fishing-now-what%21%21%21

[Kanash]

Fishing in ARR, is meant to be a hobby for you to do, between everything else in the game.
It is no longer a gathering class, like it used to be in 1.0.

The purpose of fishing, is just to fish. Atleast thats what I understand from Yoshi's comment about it.

[Rhindas]

Watch the timers list, and/or check guildleves that are repeatable. Catch extras of the requested, and sell them in groups of 5-10. HQs sell especially well.

[Makior72]

There is a cooking quest at lvl 5 or 10 I forget, that requires a..... princess trout? Tuna? Something like that. When I did mine a few days ago most ppl were selling them by orders of 10 or more, but you only need 1 for the quest. Say someone is charging 100 Gil each but are selling 10, you could charge 300 or 500 Gil each, but only sellone. Ppl would buy your one more than likely. Also, I play on Shiva.

[Arriko]

Yeah from the beginning fishing was never meant to be used for anything. There are some fish that can be used with culinary but other than that, it's just a relaxing hobby. MAYBE down the road it will turn into something but Yoshi never meant for it to be. I wish it was like XI though! It's my favorite class outside of fighting classes!

[GinTama]

Fishing in ARR, is meant to be a hobby for you to do, between everything else in the game.
It is no longer a gathering class, like it used to be in 1.0.

The purpose of fishing, is just to fish. Atleast thats what I understand from Yoshi's comment about it.

My problem with this is, the game is putting every gathering class as equals. Nowhere does it say ingame fishing is more of a hobby or not as useful as mining or botanist.
It's not fair imo.

[Quesse]

My problem with this is, the game is putting every gathering class as equals. Nowhere does it say ingame fishing is more of a hobby or not as useful as mining or botanist.
It's not fair imo.

Fishing seems completely different to me... idk. I guess maybe I've known this for a long time.

GE: It’s been a while since we’ve heard anything about fishing. Can you tell us how it’s going to work and when we will be able to try it?

Yoshida: Fishing will be available starting in phase four of the beta test. Players can check it out then. We mentioned before in a Producer’s Letter live, but the concept that we have for fishing in FFXIV is that we didn’t want to make it action based. We didn’t want actions like a battle class has, or to be pressing buttons at certain times like it was originally. Rather, we want to have players just go to a lake or river or ocean, and have players, depending on what type of water it is and maybe what time of day it is, choose which rod you are going to use, and maybe what bait or lure you are going to use. The concept is that fishing is supposed to be a conversation with nature. We wanted the fishing in fourteen to be representative of that.

We really wanted it to be something you can do in the free time that you have. For example, you go into the duty finder and while waiting in the queue, you can change to fisher and fish a little bit, and when your number comes up, change back and go. Or if you are waiting on a friend to log in. To be able to do something in that downtime that’s fun, but relaxing.

GE: Are there going to be any types of actions you need to do while fishing? We have seen comments that this could be easy for RMTs to bot if there are no actions to take.

Yoshida: Even now, RMT can create bots to get around the timing of actions. What we don’t want is to have fishing become stressful. It is supposed to be a relaxing thing. Pressing extra buttons for actions is going to create that stress. We’re going to make sure that the stuff you get from fishing is not stuff that is going to be lucrative for RMT. The system needs to be relaxing.

What we want is for fishing to be more about what you’ve done. So maybe achievements for catching certain sizes of fish? Or having a log that keeps track of your own collection of what you’ve caught before, or how big a fish you’ve caught before, or whether you have fished in all fishing spots? Having things that are connected to you.

[AylaYukihana]

One of the problem is that food in general provide such a tiny buff, most people never have a desire to even buy and consume food so the market is very small. Demand for cooked fish is low, thus, the prices are low for fish types that go into food.

FFXI had such a vibrant market for consumables and food, thus, driving the demand for fishing.

It seems such a waste considering the hundreds of fish they implemented in the game along with the baits and variable sizes etc, it should have more impact and be the sole driver of a consumable food market. At least enable the fish -> crystal conversion that alchemy used to have, that would yield a lot more demand immediately.

All these concerns about RMT is anti-gamer. People who RMT will continue to do so and find other ways to generate their gil. I mean, farming mats from certain mobs in the game with an aoe class makes heaps of gil. It doesn't take long for somebody to level to 50 and mass farm lucrative drops.

[Riot55]

Fishing used to be valuable at the beginning when I was one of the first 50s, but now it's been undercut to hell. Red corals used to go for like 700-800 NQ/1200 HQ and are down to 300/600 on my server. Whitelip and blacklip oysters used to sell relatively well too. Mahis went from 10k at the beginning and now they're at 800 gil (or less). Not much profit to be made in fishing anymore. Sounds like your server's values are way higher than mine too, so strike while the iron is hot. Our silver sharks are 1k.